[hot2go]

Originally Posted by Ammi

..it's a sad read for sure..I don't think that having an 'advantaged' upbringing/life in terms of money, has been an advantage at all, it's probably been one of the biggest disadvantages in that it's possibly led to his friendships being ones that have revolved around his money rather than who he is../more shallow friendships etc...if he had not been spoilt with money and materialistic things, then his friendships would have been because of the person he was and he himself would have been in no doubt about that, so felt much more self-worth...


..one of the most loving things that we can do for our children/to make them feel loved is to be a clearly defined parent..a huge part of them growing is in choosing their friendships and learning from their friendships../the people who they will choose to keep in their lives..Marco has never learned that either I don't think..one of the most sad things of what his mum said is that she feels or fears as though 'there is no hope for him'...what he needs is a belief that whatever road of 'destruction' he's travelling on now, there is every hope for him and a happy outcome from the two people who should have and should have had a complete belief in him..his mum and dad...

I completely agree with you ....

The boy is in trouble and the boy is in pain......it's so obvious....how that can be a reason to hate him and wish him harm or, as one person said, wish him dead.....that philosophy is so far off my radar it may as well be in outer space...

It's a credit to Andy and to Jackson that they both could see that when all the others failed to....tells me they are nice people

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by hot2go

I completely agree with you ....

The boy is in trouble and the boy is in pain......it's so obvious....how that can be a reason to hate him and wish him harm or, as one person said, wish him dead.....that philosophy is so far off my radar it may as well be in outer space...

It's a credit to Andy and to Jackson that they both could see that when all the others failed to....tells me they are nice people

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by hot2go

I completely agree with you ....

The boy is in trouble and the boy is in pain......it's so obvious....how that can be a reason to hate him and wish him harm or, as one person said, wish him dead.....that philosophy is so far off my radar it may as well be in outer space...

It's a credit to Andy and to Jackson that they both could see that when all the others failed to....tells me they are nice people

What a fantastic post hot2go, one reason I like Andy and Jackson they could see through the cracks,most of the others are two faced tossers if you ask me,pretending they liked him and rejoicing when he went,disgusting behaviour,and don't even get me started on Laura,she has more faces than Big Ben.Marco is a troubled soul and those who mock and want him to die need to give their sorry heads a wobble.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

What a fantastic post hot2go, one reason I like Andy and Jackson they could see through the cracks,most of the others are two faced tossers if you ask me,pretending they liked him and rejoicing when he went,disgusting behaviour,and don't even get me started on Laura,she has more faces than Big Ben.Marco is a troubled soul and those who mock and want him to die need to give their sorry heads a wobble.

[Speedster]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

What a fantastic post hot2go, one reason I like Andy and Jackson they could see through the cracks,most of the others are two faced tossers if you ask me,pretending they liked him and rejoicing when he went,disgusting behaviour,and don't even get me started on Laura,she has more faces than Big Ben.Marco is a troubled soul and those who mock and want him to die need to give their sorry heads a wobble.

Laura? what is it that you vanessa have against Laura?. For love of god all he had to do was stay away from her and everything'd be fine but HE DIDN'T WANT TO, doesn't that tell you ANYTHING?????. Obviously not let clue in-it means he didn't want.

All you two have is blame 2 women for the way he conveniently forgetting he's and adult and responsible for his own. You go on his mother, are aware of his father's reputation??????.

When Laura gets evicted, who will you blame then for behaviour????

[y.winter]

Sad story but they're all so twisted to the extent I couldn't care about any of them. Good luck to them with becoming sane.

[Clootie Dumpling]

I feel very sorry for Mati and, while still despising his behaviour in the House, I feel sorry for him, too.

The monster in all of this is Marco Pierre White Snr, whose own behaviour and twisted concept of parental roles, as described in the DM article, come as no surprise and go a long way towards explaining why Marco Jnr is as he is.

This puts his constant attention-seeking and the need to touch everyone all the time into perspective. He craves love and reassurance, which he didn't get as a child, because he father was an unapproachable angry character, who belittled his mother and ignored his children.

[hijaxers]

Originally Posted by Clootie Dumpling

I feel very sorry for Mati and, while still despising his behaviour in the House, I feel sorry for him, too.

The monster in all of this is Marco Pierre White Snr, whose own behaviour and twisted concept of parental roles, as described in the DM article, come as no surprise and go a long way towards explaining why Marco Jnr is as he is.

This puts his constant attention-seeking and the need to touch everyone all the time into perspective. He craves love and reassurance, which he didn't get as a child, because he father was an unapproachable angry character, who belittled his mother and ignored his children.

Sounds like MP Senior is a bully who uses money to get his own way - I hope every bloody restaurant he owns closes through lack of custom - The only way he will be rewarded properly for his selfish disgusting pig behaviour.

[Garfie]

Originally Posted by hijaxers

Sounds like MP Senior is a bully who uses money to get his own way - I hope every bloody restaurant he owns closes through lack of custom - The only way he will be rewarded properly for his selfish disgusting pig behaviour.

But you're criticising MPS for behaving in exactly the same way when he was a young man, that people are excusing MPJ for now, which is really ironic.

E.g.

A bully- MPJ was agressive and threatening to both Ryan and security guards.
Selfish- MPJ has behaved exactly as he has wanted to in both the house and outside. Spending Ł250,000 on drugs, etc - driving under the influence of cocaine and during the day when there are likely to be crowds and young children out and about- doing what he wants with no thought about how it affects someone else
Disgusting- numerous of his antics on the show, his treatment of his fiancée, etc.

If, in 20 years time, MPJ has a son behaving in the way he does now, whose fault will that be? Because, according to MPJ fans, it seems it won't be his fault!

Will they blame the child? Will they blame MPS's parents for the way they brought him up (if it's always the parents' fault)? Or will they still turn round and blame his father, who was perhaps too busy to give much time to him, and appears to have had a temper, but was, at least, trying to work hard to make a decent living in order to provide his children with a good education, a comfortable lifestyle, etc.

[BB247]

If you don't have anything good to say about your son SHUT THE ****** UP

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by BB247

If you don't have anything good to say about your son SHUT THE ****** UP

A mum saying her son has no hope is very cruel. You should always support your kids no matter what.

[y.winter]

Parents can do awful lot of things to get custody and get the kids against the other when divorcing. This divorce sounds really nasty, so I wouldn't automatically bash the mother. It's too dirty to take side, I'll leave it to them and the judge.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by y.winter

Parents can do awful lot of things to get custody and get the kids against the other when divorcing. This divorce sounds really nasty, so I wouldn't automatically bash the mother. It's too dirty to take side, I'll leave it to them and the judge.

She's the one who got violent and is going to court for it. For me it rings alarm bells very loudly.

[y.winter]

I don't think the dad did a good job as well, especially as the one who meant to raise him properly leading him to some sort of self destruction. It's clearly ugly situation and he couldn't even have the sense to rise above it all. So I couldn't be bothered with the three of them tbh...

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by y.winter

I don't think the dad did a good job as well, especially as the one who meant to raise him properly leading him to some sort of self destruction. It's clearly ugly situation and he couldn't even have the sense to rise above it all. So I couldn't be bothered with the three of them tbh...

It sounds like he wasn't there when he was needed.

[fitz2k2]

this is typical

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by fitz2k2

this is typical

Typical of what ?

[Glenn.]

Slow clap for the comedian

[Glenn.]

I love that his behaviour has been blamed on someone else.

[MojoNixon]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

I love that his behaviour has been blamed on someone else.

[Vicky.]

http://www.dailystar.co.uk/showbiz-t...ack-pipe-video

:S

Edit. NSFW!!!!

[Beso]

Laura, poor girl must be riddled by now.

[Glenn.]

Yeah...his mother has a lot to answer for

[y.winter]

Eww

What a trainwreck...

[Kizzy]

I have sympathy, having a bad childhood will affect different people in different ways some may heal themselves via catharsis through a sequence of acceptances and/or forgiveness and some through therapy.
You can't sex and drugs yourself better.