[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

She could have, if she didn't come on so bloody strong Dropping it now would probably gain a bit of popularity for her tbh. Spent the first few days going on about her bastard ex...and now is all over him like a rash.

I preferred her beforehand tbh. came across a very strong woman, a woman scorned, but a strong woman none the less. What we are seeing now, I don't want to see. This isn't particularly her *fault* as shes head over heels...I just don't want to see it and think jason is in a way worse position than she is.

Agree with you, but I think Jason cant lose . He'll be gallant no matter waht but I think there is a cynical side to him for sure. He seems more concerned with how he looks than how she feels.

They both admit she takes most of the blame for the relationship failure but theres a part of me that, kind of, admires her for still pursuing him. She needs to back off a bit but I cant see this ending well for her yet I see him coming out a hero.

[LukeB]

None are victims

[rusticgal]

Well he seems like a nice guy...Charlie has admitted she was nasty confirming what Jason has said.
She is desperate to get him back and prepared to fight tooth and nail to get what she wants...
I think it's a bit Katie Price/Peter Andre scenario. He's a great guy and she took advantage thinking she was the dogs bollocks...and could get away with murder. Now he has dumped her she realises she didn't appreciate him for what he was...

That's how I see it....because I personally wouldn't fight tooth or nail for someone who doesn't want me unless I knew I had been a complete and utter bitch...which is exactly what she has admitted.

[rionablue]

None of them are 'victims' they are both mature adults that were in a rather tempestuous relationship. From what I can gather Charlies neediness possesivement and jealousy turned Jason off her (now that is only HIS side of the story but he has aired it to some of the housemates). Charlie was put in there just like the other partners to try and stir the pot.

What Charlie should have done was play it cool. NOT SAY JASON I LOVE YOU TAKE ME BACK when she was revealed as one of the others. She could say she was Jasons ex alright but not be pleading with him. When she went into the main house yes of course give Jason a hug or ask him how he has been doing but then MINGLE with the others and not be CLINGING to Jason like a limpet. He should have been clearer with her also and said 'Hey lets enjoy the experience with the other housemates and we will talk at some stage'. Charlie is behaving like a teenage girl who wants to keep her boyfriend in line so he wont look at other women. SHE needs to GROW up and HE NEEDS to be STRAIGHT WITH HER

[Crimson Dynamo]

Poor Charlie

[Razor]

He just wants to get away from her, nothing wrong with that.

[hot2go]

BB didn't put partners or friends together ... They put 3 stalkers in the house ... Charlie, Jayne and Ryan ... The women's behaviour and response appears to back that up .., however Ryan does not seem as guilty as was thought at start ... I'm no fan of his but I have watched him closely and I don't see any indication that what Sam accused him of is true ... I think just Sam expects every gay guy to want to be like him.... he's a snidely bloke

[tanussa]

charlie should back off & keep some dignity. its real bad to throw yourself at someone who clearly isnt interested

[Lister of Smeg]

Jason can't really win in this situation he's trying to let her down gently but she isn't taking the hint he has massively underestimated how much she's obsessed with him.

[bananarama]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

What do you think?

No. He is behaving like a childish whimp. Unable to have a mature conversation with her. Hope the so called BB fans are not silly enough to vote her out and kill off a storyline

I want to see the whimp suffer keep her in.

[Mokka]

I think Big Brother is at fault for putting them both in this situation... And I still have my suspicions as to whether they were both aware of it based on the amount of footage ahead of time that Production has of them talking about each other and the relationship...

But, assuming my suspicions are wrong, Charlie has admitted to being the destroyer of their relationship out side of the house.... Jason has only said things about her in the relationship that she herself has confirmed in her own words away from him... Jason knew she had applied for the show previously, and was up front from the beginning that she would be the last thing he wanted to see in the house, where as she is more than happy to exploit their past relationship for the show... Jason clearly is walking a tight rope now trying to keep things amicable until one of them leaves, not wanting to lead her on but not wanting to trigger her wrath which he clearly lives in fear of.

So assuming it isn't all an elaboratly produced scam.... Jason is the only victim of this situation.

[jennyjuniper]

Anyone who is on the wrong end of a 'bunny boiler' mentality is a victim and Charlie seems to be the bunny boiler type. If she has issues with rage, jealousy etc., she would do better to address them, before getting into a relationship with Jason or anyone else.

[Kazanne]

I wondered how long it would be before people tried to pin something on Jason,lol,no links,no proof,the guy seems normal and we cant have that,he cant be that bad if Charlie is so desperate to get him back,he is trying to let her down gently and it's not hard to be caught on camera they are everywhere.

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

I wondered how long it would be before people tried to pin something on Jason,lol,no links,no proof,the guy seems normal and we cant have that,he cant be that bad if Charlie is so desperate to get him back,he is trying to let her down gently and it's not hard to be caught on camera they are everywhere.

So can we not even discuss the relationship or is that trying to pin something on Jason?

Both of them say she was to blame for the relationship failure so I'm simply asking if the forum think its as one sided as is being presented.

[Beso]

she'll be telling him she's pregnant next.

[Clootie Dumpling]

Originally Posted by parmnion

she'll be telling him she's pregnant next.

Wow! Would that be an ugly baby?

[Speedster]

The misogyny on here is unreal. She can't win; if she stopped having anything to do do with him she'd be an caring b*** all of a sudden, or fickle, insincere.

At the moment she's "bunny-boiler", potentially unstable, a stalker, a lowly stripper and too young for him (he chose her,how can the age difference be her problem if he chose he.

It's good being a guy. You can get away with murder.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Clootie Dumpling

Wow! Would that be an ugly baby?

Hark at you the oil painting.

[Nicky91]

Jason playing the victim role, i'm not his fan anymore

[hot2go]

Womens tears in the BB house are nearly always a tool of complete manipulation. They don't cry like vulnerable little victims after the show, they're usually hard as nails with a ruthless approach to everything they do.
There is nothing Jason could do that would make me think she's the victim.... She's playing games with him and everyone watching.

Why does ' no means no ' only apply to girls.
He's said no, that her queue to back the f-ck off.

Anything other than backing off is sexual harassment and emotional entrapment.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by hot2go

Womens tears in the BB house are nearly always a tool of complete manipulation. They don't cry like vulnerable little victims after the show, they're usually hard as nails with a ruthless approach to everything they do.
There is nothing Jason could do that would make me think she's the victim.... She's playing games with him and everyone watching.

Why does ' no means no ' only apply to girls.
He's said no, that her queue to back the f-ck off.
L
Anything other than backing off is sexual harassment and emotional entrapment.

Completely agree with this as well...I'm fighting to get you back..what 30 year old woman carries on like that, they are embarrassing themselves in there, it's the most ridiculous story line ever

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by hot2go

Womens tears in the BB house are nearly always a tool of complete manipulation. They don't cry like vulnerable little victims after the show, they're usually hard as nails with a ruthless approach to everything they do.
There is nothing Jason could do that would make me think she's the victim.... She's playing games with him and everyone watching.

Why does ' no means no ' only apply to girls.
He's said no, that her queue to back the f-ck off.

Anything other than backing off is sexual harassment and emotional entrapment.

yeah i also don't like Charlie



btw i sent you a pm

[hot2go]

When Laura said Marco wouldnt take no for an answer some people called him a predator ... Even tho the silly cow had her legs wrapped round him again 2 hours later.

But when Jason said Charlie won't take no for an answer those same people say he's playing the victim.

A lot of sexism taking place. One rule for girls and another one for men.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by hot2go

When Laura said Marco wouldnt take no for an answer some people called him a predator ... Even tho the silly cow had her legs wrapped round him again 2 hours later.

But when Jason said Charlie won't take no for an answer those same people say he's playing the victim.

A lot of sexism taking place. One rule for girls and another one for men.

hot2go spilling the truth tea

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by hot2go

When Laura said Marco wouldnt take no for an answer some people called him a predator ... Even tho the silly cow had her legs wrapped round him again 2 hours later.

But when Jason said Charlie won't take no for an answer those same people say he's playing the victim.

A lot of sexism taking place. One rule for girls and another one for men.

As I recall hot2go,Laura wanted them to just be friends and Marco accepted that and never went there again until laura made it quite clear she wanted him there AGAIN,that woman has more faces than Big Ben