[alex_front2]

I actually find him interesting now, in this post Charlie era. He's a lot smarter than he'd have us believe, and definitely more sinister and manipulative. He's the kind of guy that could falsely convince his mother-in-law that her daughter was committing domestic violence. He's highly dangerous IMHO but extremely fascinating as he's so controlled and sinister whilst presenting a nice guy persona. Great hm.

[sampvt]

So in your world Sassy, anything we have done in the past should shape the way we are now and we should hate Jason for the fact that he changed and made himself a better person. Isnt that a tad hypocritical. Let me remind you.....#

Lateysha was a shag bag on the valleys and she came on here to show everyone she was a good person.

Andy has made some seriously badmistakes that hurt people in his past reporting life and he has changed.

Hughie has probably left some poor old sop with no savings and a crappy tarmacked driveway and his girlfriend disgusted but we forgive him now

Jackson admitted he was a druggie and all round arsehole in his past life, now he has a rich missus and is gonna win a 100k.

In fact if you look at all of them, the main reason why they are there is to invent a new persona about themselves, yet you chose to make Jason the poster boy for all that's bad years ago. I find that a tad hypocritical.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by sampvt

So in your world Sassy, anything we have done in the past should shape the way we are now and we should hate Jason for the fact that he changed and made himself a better person. Isnt that a tad hypocritical. Let me remind you.....#

Lateysha was a shag bag on the valleys and she came on here to show everyone she was a good person.

Andy has made some seriously badmistakes that hurt people in his past reporting life and he has changed.

Hughie has probably left some poor old sop with no savings and a crappy tarmacked driveway and his girlfriend disgusted but we forgive him now

Jackson admitted he was a druggie and all round arsehole in his past life, now he has a rich missus and is gonna win a 100k.

In fact if you look at all of them, the main reason why they are there is to invent a new persona about themselves, yet you chose to make Jason the poster boy for all that's bad years ago. I find that a tad hypocritical.

Some people are forgiven, some are not

[dyfed]

I love how Jason is so honest,we have ALL done things in the past,grown and learned from them,I am sure Jason and his dog regrets ever allowing Charlie into their life,it has been a breath of fresh air having the older hm in the house,the young ones are so immature,all this playing up to the camera, you would think bb would be able to conceal the cameras better.....

[Jan S]

Originally Posted by jaxie

I felt very sad for him in that scene. The house and eviction crowd reactions are making him doubt himself when in fact he's done nothing bad or wrong. I think he is incredibly reflective and decent and the fact he doubts himself makes me like him more if anything. He's human.

this

Originally Posted by jet

He is quite introverted I think and a deep thinker who needs reassurance that he is doing the right thing so he needs to talk about his actions and get opinions on them from those he trusts. He needs to stay strong and sure now and not let the pettiness of other people get to him. He had it long enough with Charlie he doesn't need the hassle all over again. I felt sorry for him tonight. He's doubting himself and there is absolutely no reason on earth that he should feel that way.

.....Little does he know the support he has outside the house!

and this

Originally Posted by hot2go

Older people are imperfect like everyone else but they have self control and self respect. That's the key difference between someone like Jason and someone like Hughie. Just because he's not hysterical and not jumping around like a demented loon people think he's hiding something when in fact he's just a mature guy with manners and integrity.
Not everyone wants to act like a reject from the Jeremy Kyle show.

*nods and grins*

it's his ability to self-evaluate and reflect on his actions/motives that the cardboard cut-outs in the house don't get - it's too alien a behaviour for them and so it sparks all manner of mistrust in them and they close ranks against the perception of threat. human nature is often ugly.

[dyfed]

Originally Posted by sampvt

So in your world Sassy, anything we have done in the past should shape the way we are now and we should hate Jason for the fact that he changed and made himself a better person. Isnt that a tad hypocritical. Let me remind you.....#

Lateysha was a shag bag on the valleys and she came on here to show everyone she was a good person.

Andy has made some seriously badmistakes that hurt people in his past reporting life and he has changed.

Hughie has probably left some poor old sop with no savings and a crappy tarmacked driveway and his girlfriend disgusted but we forgive him now

Jackson admitted he was a druggie and all round arsehole in his past life, now he has a rich missus and is gonna win a 100k.

In fact if you look at all of them, the main reason why they are there is to invent a new persona about themselves, yet you chose to make Jason the poster boy for all that's bad years ago. I find that a tad hypocritical.

Well said...

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by sampvt

So in your world Sassy, anything we have done in the past should shape the way we are now and we should hate Jason for the fact that he changed and made himself a better person. Isnt that a tad hypocritical. Let me remind you.....#

Lateysha was a shag bag on the valleys and she came on here to show everyone she was a good person.

Andy has made some seriously badmistakes that hurt people in his past reporting life and he has changed.

Hughie has probably left some poor old sop with no savings and a crappy tarmacked driveway and his girlfriend disgusted but we forgive him now

Jackson admitted he was a druggie and all round arsehole in his past life, now he has a rich missus and is gonna win a 100k.

In fact if you look at all of them, the main reason why they are there is to invent a new persona about themselves, yet you chose to make Jason the poster boy for all that's bad years ago. I find that a tad hypocritical.

It's one rule for Jason and another for the others

[Vanessa]

This is why I hate Laura. She said she's got a massive problem with him. And what has he done to her? Ah yes, cooking and cleaning. Because that's so sinister and nasty

[Crimson Dynamo]

Not another "reaching" Jason thread

Jason is the story now and the "kids" are going to have to swallow it


bwahahahahahahahahaha

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Not another "reaching" Jason thread

Jason is the story now and the "kids" are going to have to swallow it


bwahahahahahahahahaha

All hail the King

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

This is why I hate Laura. She said she's got a massive problem with him. And what has he done to her? Ah yes, cooking and cleaning. Because that's so sinister and nasty

THEN she went on to say herself and Evelyn cooked every night !!

[Vanessa]

I find Jason very interesting and last night the show ended just when he was opening up about his past. I wanted to hear more

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

THEN she went on to say herself and Evelyn cooked every night !!

That's nonsense. Jason is the one cooking everyday. Sometimes we see people helping him, like Jayne for example. Laura and Ev? I've only ever seen them in the kitchen to eat.

[dyfed]

Last night we heard out of Ryan own mouth his derogatory comments, we could all see how uncomfortable Jason was,plus he spoke to Andy about it before the eviction,Jason had the guts to call him out.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by dyfed

Last night we heard out of Ryan own mouth his derogatory comments, we could all see how uncomfortable Jason was,plus he spoke to Andy about it before the eviction,Jason had the guts to call him out.

Ryan made me feel sick the things he was saying ....his mother must be so proud

[Ellen]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

That's nonsense. Jason is the one cooking everyday. Sometimes we see people helping him, like Jayne for example. Laura and Ev? I've only ever seen them in the kitchen to eat.

I think Laura & Evelyn make food late on for each other possibly others.
I believe they made pancakes a few times as well.

[Ellen]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

This is why I hate Laura. She said she's got a massive problem with him. And what has he done to her? Ah yes, cooking and cleaning. Because that's so sinister and nasty

She said she doesnt trust him because he cooks, gets up early and makes things for people, doesnt speak badly about people. Apparently thats a reason to dislike someone

[sampvt]

Originally Posted by dyfed

Last night we heard out of Ryan own mouth his derogatory comments, we could all see how uncomfortable Jason was,plus he spoke to Andy about it before the eviction,Jason had the guts to call him out.

When you say derogatory, can you please explain what you mean. Does this mean disrespectful comments or are they different. Some of don't understand the difference between derogatory and disrespectful,

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Ellen

I think Laura & Evelyn make food late on for each other possibly others.
I believe they made pancakes a few times as well.

For themselves

[sampvt]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

For themselves

All those 2 silly cows eat is Rabbit food, last time I saw a lettuce leaf it didn't need cooking, it needed throwing out for the slugs and rabbits, cant stand salad myself. gives me the ****s

[Jan S]

Originally Posted by Ellen

She said she doesnt trust him because he cooks, gets up early and makes things for people, doesnt speak badly about people. Apparently thats a reason to dislike someone

he soooooooooooo evil! *throws in a wink emoji for clarity this is panto booing*

but it's a sad state of affairs when someone's innate niceness is a reason to distrust them. says so much about the person being distrusting, no?

[hot2go]

Originally Posted by sampvt

So in your world Sassy, anything we have done in the past should shape the way we are now and we should hate Jason for the fact that he changed and made himself a better person. Isnt that a tad hypocritical. Let me remind you.....#

Lateysha was a shag bag on the valleys and she came on here to show everyone she was a good person.

Andy has made some seriously badmistakes that hurt people in his past reporting life and he has changed.

Hughie has probably left some poor old sop with no savings and a crappy tarmacked driveway and his girlfriend disgusted but we forgive him now

Jackson admitted he was a druggie and all round arsehole in his past life, now he has a rich missus and is gonna win a 100k.

In fact if you look at all of them, the main reason why they are there is to invent a new persona about themselves, yet you chose to make Jason the poster boy for all that's bad years ago. I find that a tad hypocritical.

[Ellen]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

For themselves

Yes i believe it was, dont think they have cooked for the whole group.

[Ellen]

Originally Posted by Jan S

he soooooooooooo evil! *throws in a wink emoji for clarity this is panto booing*

but it's a sad state of affairs when someone's innate niceness is a reason to distrust them. says so much about the person being distrusting, no?

Your right it is exactly like that.

I find it weird how you can distrust someone for not doing anything too you

[hot2go]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Ryan made me feel sick the things he was saying ....his mother must be so proud

I can't believe there are young girls defending Ryan, the same young girls who constantly drone on about respect for women and the bad behaviour of men.
We get what we settle for in this world and Jason didn't settle for Ryans behaviour. Alex, and the others in the room, did. The result is a twenty year old girl in bed with a 27 year old man while other men tell him to f-ck her up the arse. At the very least it makes her look like a piece of meat and the very worst she could feel violated, intimidated and completely disempowered.

Everyone should be shouting about how awful it was that no one else disapproved. Not taking chunks out of Jason for defending her.