[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

Let's hope they can shoot the other two quick before anymore officers die.

Well, at least disarm them - then torture them slowly for a few days BEFORE executing them.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Not LT assuming that this is the targetted actions of people just out to kill cops with absolutely ZERO evidence that that is what has happened here. Surely. Not the same LT who only goes on "verified facts" and not assumptions. It couldn't be.

Just keep watching the news TS

just keep watching the news

[arista]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

Well, at least disarm them - then torture them slowly for a few days BEFORE executing them.

Only if no TV News HD Cameras
have them.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Just keep watching the news TS

just keep watching the news

Doesn't matter if you turn out to be right LT, the important factor is the assumption itself.

[arista]

They say it was Just the One Shooter,
But sadly he was dressed all in Black
so sounds like Pure Revenge
Easy Ambush

Ref: CNN HD USA

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Doesn't matter if you turn out to be right LT, the important factor is the assumption itself.

incorrect

I make no assumption of race at all

[user104658]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

incorrect

I make no assumption of race at all

Who mentioned race? No one until you, just now.

Another assumption

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Who mentioned race? No one until you, just now.

Another assumption

you did i am afraid reaching to try and justify a crumbling blm argument

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Not LT assuming that this is the targetted actions of people just out to kill cops with absolutely ZERO evidence that that is what has happened here. Surely. Not the same LT who only goes on "verified facts" and not assumptions. It couldn't be.

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Doesn't matter if you turn out to be right LT, the important factor is the assumption itself.

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Who mentioned race? No one until you, just now.

Another assumption

That's all of my posts in this thread LT .

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

you did i am afraid reaching to try and justify a crumbling blm argument

Where?

My argument has nothing to do with BLM to be "crumbling" or otherwise, my singular intention was to call you out on your hypocrisy, as you constantly insist that no one should make assumptions or pass judgements until the "real truth" has been uncovered in a court of law. Except you, apparently? Like I said it doesn't even matter if you turn out to be 100% correct, you have still aptly demonstrated that you don't even believe in your own daft "no assumptions before a trial" argument. Which is good, because it's a bull**** argument, I'm just glad that's been clarified now so we can all feel free to ignore you when you (inevitably) try to make that point again in future threads.

[arista]

LT and TS
stop being so Pithy

[arista]

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

That's all of my posts in this thread LT .

Where?

My argument has nothing to do with BLM to be "crumbling" or otherwise, my singular intention was to call you out on your hypocrisy, as you constantly insist that no one should make assumptions or pass judgements until the "real truth" has been uncovered in a court of law. Except you, apparently? Like I said it doesn't even matter if you turn out to be 100% correct, you have still aptly demonstrated that you don't even believe in your own daft "no assumptions before a trial" argument. Which is good, because it's a bull**** argument, I'm just glad that's been clarified now so we can all feel free to ignore you when you (inevitably) try to make that point again in future threads.

incorrect TS you are just admiring your feeble attempt to try and correlate an illegal murder of law enforcement officers with a shooting incident by law enforcement officers


I am not singing about it at the superbowl, rampaging thru the streets or making youtube rants



my post was thus: "Sickening. Maybe the police should pull out of Baton rouge for a week and teach the thick haters a real lesson. "

you assumed an awful lot from that - you said "LT assuming that this is the targetted actions of people just out to kill cops with absolutely ZERO evidence"

Just an assumption byt you as to my meaning, nothing else.


The people who killed the cops did not do it by accident, that is a fact. Thus my point stands. If you can show me it was an accident then your point stands.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

incorrect TS you are just admiring your feeble attempt to try and correlate an illegal murder of law enforcement officers with a shooting incident by law enforcement officers


I am not singing about it at the superbowl, rampaging thru the streets or making youtube rants



my post was thus: "Sickening. Maybe the police should pull out of Baton rouge for a week and teach the thick haters a real lesson. "

you assumed an awful lot from that - you said "LT assuming that this is the targetted actions of people just out to kill cops with absolutely ZERO evidence"

Just an assumption byt you as to my meaning, nothing else.


The people who killed the cops did not do it by accident, that is a fact. Thus my point stands. If you can show me it was an accident then your point stands.

Nah this is just you trying to justify your one-size-fits-all bulldozer argument from those other threads. You want to still be able to use the "verified facts only please!" argument against other people, whilst still confidently bleating your entirely unverified opinion (again, whether you are correct or not!) in other threads when the topic (or victim) happens to suit you.

Perhaps because you fear that you have not a lot to fall back on if that "No opinion until Judge Judy sez" argument is off the table?


Just as an add-on thought on topic, though: of course you can correlate the illegal killing of police officers by civilians with the illegal killing of civilians by police officers. Murder is murder . Neither is better nor worse, and these unhinged and murderous cop killers deserve exactly the same treatment as an unhinged and murderous trigger-happy officer.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Nah this is just you trying to justify your one-size-fits-all bulldozer argument from those other threads. You want to still be able to use the "verified facts only please!" argument against other people, whilst still confidently bleating your entirely unverified opinion (again, whether you are correct or not!) in other threads when the topic (or victim) happens to suit you.

Perhaps because you fear that you have not a lot to fall back on if that "No opinion until Judge Judy sez" argument is off the table?


Just as an add-on thought on topic, though: of course you can correlate the illegal killing of police officers by civilians with the illegal killing of civilians by police officers. Murder is murder . Neither is better nor worse, and these unhinged and murderous cop killers deserve exactly the same treatment as an unhinged and murderous trigger-happy officer.

TS you and I know that trying to judge on a potential murder case by looking at one persons phone video evidence is madness - for example


No matter how much you try and sugar coat it to fit in with your lifeview

[Crimson Dynamo]

Gunman made frequent web posts


Long was a prolific user of social media, with dozens of videos, podcasts, tweets and posts under his pseudonym Cosmo Setepenra. Under that name, Long also tweeted a link to a news story about Dallas shooter Micah Johnson and said the shooter was "one of us! # MY Religion is Justice."

http://edition.cnn.com/2016/07/17/us...ing/index.html

[user104658]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

TS you and I know that trying to judge on a potential murder case by looking at one persons phone video evidence is madness - for example


No matter how much you try and sugar coat it to fit in with your lifeview

Yes, ONE persons video would be madness.

But it's also madness to ignore an emerging pattern. Some of the videos will be questionable, others not so much, but when there are countless examples of the same thing happening with minor variations it is simply ridiculous to ignore it or to brand it "just another random coincidence".

Yet again you're deliberately avoiding the point though, all I've pointed out in this thread is that you made your comments and your judgements in the immediate aftermath and in the absence of verified facts of any kind - let alone facts that have been under the scrutiny of the justice system - and that SPECIFICALLY has been your platform on other threads for discounting the opinions of others. You keep switching the subject to other, only vaguely related topics. I can only assume deliberately.

I personally have no problem with you having your opinion / making guesses at what's going on. That's what makes these threads interesting. I'd simply ask that you, then, STOP trying to force others not to do the same in other threads by ranting on about "judges" and "the justice system" .

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Yes, ONE persons video would be madness.

But it's also madness to ignore an emerging pattern. Some of the videos will be questionable, others not so much, but when there are countless examples of the same thing happening with minor variations it is simply ridiculous to ignore it or to brand it "just another random coincidence".

Yet again you're deliberately avoiding the point though, all I've pointed out in this thread is that you made your comments and your judgements in the immediate aftermath and in the absence of verified facts of any kind - let alone facts that have been under the scrutiny of the justice system - and that SPECIFICALLY has been your platform on other threads for discounting the opinions of others. You keep switching the subject to other, only vaguely related topics. I can only assume deliberately.

I personally have no problem with you having your opinion / making guesses at what's going on. That's what makes these threads interesting. I'd simply ask that you, then, STOP trying to force others not to do the same in other threads by ranting on about "judges" and "the justice system" .

I get the tortured logic. By this reasoning the Nice chap may be a misunderstood innocent but you cannot compare hysteria based on youtube videos to reported crime by multiple news media that comes direct from the police themselves with a perpwho has admitted guilt and the reasons for the crime.