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Ithinkiloveyoutoo · 25-09-2016, 02:32 PM

Because when pop was invented it was different than what pop is today. Today literally everything is classed as pop but before real pop was associated with really cheesy songs like I don't know, wham, maybe, or maybe or think of something even cheesier, "bubblegum " music. If you think in terms of those original cheesy pop songs of course they weren't going to be to everyone's taste especially when other genres were on the rise too. I feel like in th earlier era's music was more associated with the type of people aswell. Like if you liked pop you're gay, if you liked rock you're macho, disco gay, ballads were acceptable, rnb for blacks, gangsta rap thugs etc...now it's different.
Those that are "pop" today sell millions anyway so not everyone must hate it...today.

Me I love everything. I'm a music hoe. Depends on the day.

ArgyESC · 25-09-2016, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Jamie89

It's just the way of it really. People who love music on all sides can get very passionate about it (cite. tibb pop girl debates

) And pop being the most mainstream it's going to get the most attention, so there's stronger love for it as well as hate.

Also though, it's probably less credible because it has to be more generic to appeal to a mass audience, so often it can sound samey/lazy etc. And sometimes music that sounds a bit different can get ignored by the mass audience so it doesn't chart as well and the fans of that particular music might feel some resentment to the music that's in the charts because of it.

As for female pop singers getting more criticism, I think it is harder for women in the music industry to be seen as credible, but that's across all genres, and actually worse in rock and indie etc sometimes than it is in pop music. We still live in a very sexist society though so women sometimes have a harder time being seen as credible in a lot of different areas, not just music.

Unfortunately, this is true.

Ramsay · 25-09-2016, 11:45 AM

Well obviously because many people think it's ****

Vicky. · 25-09-2016, 01:27 PM

I honestly don 't think a lot of people who say they dio actually do tbh. Otherwise I don't get how pop music is so popular

Just...its seen as uncool to say you like pop. Thats all. So people make out they don't while secretly bopping along to Bieber tunes in their bedroom.

ArgyESC · 25-09-2016, 03:37 PM

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I honestly don 't think a lot of people who say they dio actually do tbh. Otherwise I don't get how pop music is so popular

Just...its seen as uncool to say you like pop. Thats all. So people make out they don't while secretly bopping along to Bieber tunes in their bedroom.

I think the same.

Mystic Mock · 25-09-2016, 02:16 PM

People don't hate Pop Music, I think people just like different eras of Pop Music.

Like I'm more of a 90's/00's person with my Pop Music (probably because I was growing up in those times I don't know) so that's my era for Pop Music, I do like some Pop Music in the 10's as well, but it is filled with too much Bieber/One Direction crap where anyone could write those songs, and it's also gone a bit too Dance-Pop obsessed.

For me good Pop singers today are.

Katy Perry
Years & Years
The Weeknd
Jason Derulo
Nick Jonas
Ed Sheeran
Rihanna
5 Seconds Of Summer
Justin Timberlake

I know that some of them were out in the 00's, but they are releasing Music today so that's why I've put them in my list with the newer ones.

Vicky. · 25-09-2016, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

People don't hate Pop Music, I think people just like different eras of Pop Music.

Like I'm more of a 90's/00's person with my Pop Music (probably because I was growing up in those times I don't know) so that's my era for Pop Music, I do like some Pop Music in the 10's as well, but it is filled with too much Bieber/One Direction crap where anyone could write those songs, and it's also gone a bit too Dance-Pop obsessed.

For me good Pop singers today are.

Katy Perry
Years & Years
The Weeknd
Jason Derulo
Nick Jonas
Ed Sheeran
Rihanna
5 Seconds Of Summer
Justin Timberlake

I know that some of them were out in the 00's, but they are releasing Music today so that's why I've put them in my list with the newer ones.

Mystic Mock · 25-09-2016, 02:24 PM

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Some of her songs are more creative than Steal My Girl or Baby.

Liam- · 25-09-2016, 02:26 PM

Because the majority of it is unimaginative, repetitive bubblegum crap with lyrics not even children could get behind, there are the occasional tunes that creep through that net and are actually decent, but most of the time it's just a load of manufactured, money machine rubbish.

Fetch The Bolt Cutters · 25-09-2016, 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Liam-

Because the majority of it is unimaginative, repetitive bubblegum crap with lyrics not even children could get behind, there are the occasional tunes that creep through that net and are actually decent, but most of the time it's just a load of manufactured, money machine rubbish.

Crimson Dynamo · 25-09-2016, 02:50 PM

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I never understood this. I constantly hear people saying how crappy pop music is, especially when the singer is female.

Why this stereotype? Okay, I know, some pop songs are quite cheap but not all of them.

In a Eurovision-devoted website called Wiwibloggs, commenters criticize pop songs all the time. They don't judge each song as a freaking song! They judge it based on its genre. And don't tell me that they just don't like pop music. It's not the case. They have this stupid stereotype in their minds that says "Reject every single pop song! Even if you like it!".

You prejudiced and sexist dickheads!

"never understood this. I constantly hear people saying how crappy pop music is, especially when the singer is female."

where do you hear this and can you give examples of why you see this as constant?

ArgyESC · 25-09-2016, 03:36 PM

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"never understood this. I constantly hear people saying how crappy pop music is, especially when the singer is female."

where do you hear this and can you give examples of why you see this as constant?

Mainly on the internet, not in reality. And what do you mean "examples"? It is constant, that's all.

Crimson Dynamo · 25-09-2016, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by ESCArgy

Mainly on the internet, not in reality. And what do you mean "examples"? It is constant, that's all.

but who is saying it?

are you just talking about kids on social media?

ArgyESC · 25-09-2016, 03:40 PM

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but who is saying it?

are you just talking about kids on social media?

Maybe, how can I know who they are?

Crimson Dynamo · 25-09-2016, 03:44 PM

maybe if femal; pop singers would stop pretending to suck cocks and have sex when singing folks may take them a bit more serious

All that dreadful gang of twats that is little mix do is one dance after another where they pretend to have sex its pathetic and as for Rhianna, she is also a joke

ArgyESC · 25-09-2016, 03:46 PM

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maybe if femal; pop singers would stop pretending to suck cocks and have sex when singing folks may take them a bit more serious

All that dreadful gang of twats that is little mix do is one dance after another where they pretend to have sex its pathetic and as for Rhianna, she is also a joke

You are right but what's sad is that some people discriminate against all female singers.