[GiRTh]

Originally posted by nodisharmony

I am implying that Jade Goody recognizes that her behavior in the house has caused terrible offence to many of the Indian community, over here and in India too.

Her mother got attacked recently by men of an Asian background. I won't say they were not born here, but they were non-white.

There is unrest amongst many of the Indian community and it is easy to get scared, if Jade Goody was approached by someone who is Indian.

It is like going to London on a tube train and seeing an Iraqi or someone that looks like one.

If they had a suitcase or rucksack and they were looking shifty. People may assume the worst.

This has happened!!!

Jade Goody has got to try and clear her name first and then, she may feel safer.

This is not a nasty comment, just stating true facts of what someone would feel under these circumstances.

You're starting to show your true colours now.

Why is it significant that men of an Asian background attacked Jakiey? Why do you think some one of 'non-white' background would be more offended than a Caucasian person? Why would Jade be automatically scared if she was approached by an Indian person? She could be being approached by an Indian person who wanted to support her; when Jade was on "The Wright stuff" didn’t she say something about being approached by a black woman who was supporting her. Where is all fear that you’re talking about. I want facts or don’t mention it again.

Your comment about Iraqi’s is appalling. By the way, how would you know they were Iraqi’s, would it be the colour of their skin?

[Mrluvaluva]

[i]Originally posted by nodisharmony
She will feel apprehensive towards Indian people.

She can't feel that aprehensive about Indian people. She has just been to India and, you know what, 'it's full of them.

[nodisharmony]

Originally posted by GRiT

You're starting to show your true colours now.

Why is it significant that men of an Asian background attacked Jakiey? Why do you think some one of 'non-white' background would be more offended than a Caucasian person? Why would Jade be automatically scared if she was approached by an Indian person? She could be being approached by an Indian person who wanted to support her; when Jade was on "The Wright stuff" didn’t she say something about being approached by a black woman who was supporting her. Where is all fear that you’re talking about. I want facts or don’t mention it again.

Your comment about Iraqi’s is appalling. By the way, how would you know they were Iraqi’s, would it be the colour of their skin?

It is very natural for someone who has been accused of racism, also looking at all the evidence which I have before me and I only state the truth.

That, Jade Goody would feel apprehensive of somebody with a different skin colour to white.

There is nothing unusual about this.

It is like a woman who has been raped. She might find it hard to trust men again.

I know you want to twist this into something very ugly, but if that is what you are trying to do

You are wasteing my time.

I have said what is very obvious and many would understand that and after what has happened to Jade Goody and what is happening right now. Jade would be suspicious and you have to understand that.

Many Indian people have said on news reports that they didn't consider Jade Goody as being racist, but there are many that do and as Jade Goody is not psychic, she will have to be a little cautious, but not too cautious.

I hope that clears that up!!
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This is NOT my opinion.

But, many people look at people on a tube train and do make assumptions of a particular person or race.

This does happen and myself personally, wouldn't be able to say whether someone is an Iraqi or not. But many people do. and do stir things up.

This is so obvious, I don't understand why you cannot grasp the situation.

People do the strangest of things and we don't all think alike.

[nodisharmony]

Originally posted by BAZG

She can't feel that aprehensive about Indian people. She has just been to India and, you know what, 'it's full of them.

That was a controlled situation.

She had entourage with her and hired protection too.


I am talking about, Jade on her own in a country called ENGLAND, "it's full of them" too.

And they are welcome!!!

[GiRTh]

Originally posted by nodisharmony

It is like a woman who has been raped. She might find it hard to trust men again.

I feel almost physically sick that you've used that analogy. Is there no depth that you'll sink to inorder to defend Jade. Is she really worth all the effort to defend her. This comment has sickened me. You're losing credibility by the bucket load.

[Mrluvaluva]

[i]Originally posted by nodisharmony
And they are welcome!!!

That's so nice of you!

[GiRTh]

Originally posted by nodisharmony

It is very natural for someone who has been accused of racism, also looking at all the evidence which I have before me and I only state the truth.

That, Jade Goody would feel apprehensive of somebody with a different skin colour to white.

There is nothing unusual about this.

It is like a woman who has been raped. She might find it hard to trust men again.

I know you want to twist this into something very ugly, but if that is what you are trying to do

You are wasteing my time.

I have said what is very obvious and many would understand that and after what has happened to Jade Goody and what is happening right now. Jade would be suspicious and you have to understand that.

Many Indian people have said on news reports that they didn't consider Jade Goody as being racist, but there are many that do and as Jade Goody is not psychic, she will have to be a little cautious, but not too cautious.

I hope that clears that up!!
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This is NOT my opinion.

But, many people look at people on a tube train and do make assumptions of a particular person or race.

This does happen and myself personally, wouldn't be able to say whether someone is an Iraqi or not. But many people do. and do stir things up.

This is so obvious, I don't understand why you cannot grasp the situation.

People do the strangest of things and we don't all think alike.

You have completely skated over the point that on "The Wright Stuff" she mentioned that she'd received support from the "non-white" community. Surely that contradicts this life of fear that you claim she leads.

[Ruth]

Originally posted by nodisharmony
Also, she must show, all the stuff she has done, since being on "Big Brother 3".

So much stuff and how well she has done with her fitness video and her perfume and her beauty salon.

Every single thing. That Jade Goody has done, since she first appeared in Big Brother.

Show her nice side and look beyond the Big Brother show.

being successful does not make her a nice person. She has a canny agent.

But, the main part, is the Racism. Jade Goody is not a racist and will have friends and associates who are not white.

You imply in another post that Jade will be nervous if anyone who is not white comes up to her. First of all I would like to know how you know what goes through Jade's head? Second of all, if that is indeed what jade thinks, then she is being prejudiced against non-whites.

Jade Goody can do this and make it big.

This is her only real chance and if she does this, which I am sure she will. It will make people realise that the media and politicians can corrupt people's minds into believing that a girl like Jade Goody is that bad, when she is NOT. [/quote]

[nodisharmony]

Originally posted by GRiT

I feel almost physically sick that you've used that analogy. Is there no depth that you'll sink to inorder to defend Jade. Is she really worth all the effort to defend her. This comment has sickened me. You're losing credibility by the bucket load.

I just used an example. A very real example!

Jade Goody's situation is real and also

A NIGHTMARE!!

[nodisharmony]

Originally posted by Ruth

being successful does not make her a nice person. She has a canny agent.

You imply in another post that Jade will be nervous if anyone who is not white comes up to her. First of all I would like to know how you know what goes through Jade's head? Second of all, if that is indeed what jade thinks, then she is being prejudiced against non-whites.

Jade Goody can do this and make it big.

This is her only real chance and if she does this, which I am sure she will. It will make people realise that the media and politicians can corrupt people's minds into believing that a girl like Jade Goody is that bad, when she is NOT.

[/quote]



Jade Goody has been successful. There is NO doubt in anyones mind, there!

She will have a good agent!

Just like anything, you get what you pay for. Jade Goody doesn't mess around and wants to be known, loved, liked and make a bit of money and meet new people and have fun doing it.

A great life!
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You are missing the point about Jade Goody's fear of being approached by a non-white person.

I think that you need more clarification on this point.

Jade Goody will talk to anybody who is there in front of her. Whether they are white, black, brown or even in a green mask. ANYBODY!!

However. as she has apparently offended so many people from the Indian community, which is very evident.

If Jade Goody was out with her children and suddenly she saw two Indian men coming towards her, she would probably feel a little worried! That is very obvious!

My Girlfriends brother got bitten by a dog once.

He is now apprehensive of all dogs.

Can you understand this better now?
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The media can do almost anything to a celebrity, we all know that from past experiences.

Don't be naive....

[mansi]

how could you compare that to jade's situation...? jade created this "nightmare" for herself

[Mrluvaluva]

[i]Originally posted by nodisharmony
Jade Goody will talk to anybody who is there in front of her. Whether they are white, black, brown or even in a green mask. ANYBODY!!

Get her on this forum then for a Q & A session.

[Dr43%er]

Nodisharmony said.

I cut and paste NOTHING

This is an out and out lie as the first post in this thread is word for word exactly the same as a post he made over at the now defunct
jadegoodyonline forums.

Dr 43%er

[Ruth]

Originally posted by nodisharmony
When I am on there, I shall NOT be thinking about bombers, but it is at the back of all of our minds.

So now, you not only claim to know what Jade thinks, but also what everybody else thinks?

If I was sitting in a carriage and there was five people shouting, "There's a bomber on the train", people would panic and believe it!! suddenly, I would find myself worrying and believing.

There is nothing unusual about this.

Well obviously, people would be panicked if they were told that there was a bomber on there. But it's not something I would think about on a normal journey without scaremongers. As far as I know, you don't usually get five people standing up shouting that there is a bomber on there!

She and the girls have accidentally offended many of them.

Did she 'accidentally' say she wanted to headbutt Shilpa? Did she 'accidentally' call Shilpa a "f---ing loser" and a
"w---ker?" Did she accidentally call her "Shilpa Daroopa, Shilpa Poppadom?"

[Ruth]

Originally posted by nodisharmony
Jade Goody has been successful. There is NO doubt in anyones mind, there!

She will have a good agent!

I didn't say she had not been successful.

Just like anything, you get what you pay for.

So the people who paid for Jade's fitness video are getting conned. They didn't pay for that.

You are missing the point about Jade Goody's fear of being approached by a non-white person.

I think that you need more clarification on this point.

Jade Goody will talk to anybody who is there in front of her. Whether they are white, black, brown or even in a green mask. ANYBODY!!

Please don't tell me what I need. I understand the point you are making perfectly - I just think it's completely wrong.

If Jade Goody was out with her children and suddenly she saw two Indian men coming towards her, she would probably feel a little worried! That is very obvious!

no it isn't - unless she has preconceived ideas about Indian people of course.

My Girlfriends brother got bitten by a dog once.

He is now apprehensive of all dogs.

Can you understand this better now?

Sigh.

I understand what you are saying. I disagree with it.

The media can do almost anything to a celebrity, we all know that from past experiences.

Don't be naive....

I'm not being naive. I know exactly what the media are capable of - they can make or break someone's career. However, Jade and co handed them the perfect opportunity to do so. If they had not behaved the way they did in the house, they would not be in the predicament that they are currently in. Stop trying to blame other people for what Jade, Jo and Danielle did. They chose to behave that way - they are the ones who have to deal with the consequences.

[Ruth]

Btw, can I add that using the analogy of a rape victim to compare to jade's current situation is disgraceful?

[Mrluvaluva]

[i]Originally posted by Ruth
Did she accidentally call her "Shilpa Daroopa, Shilpa Poppadom?"

And Shilpa ****awallah.

[Nu]

Hi Nodis and my dear friend Dr

[Mrluvaluva]

[i]Originally posted by nodisharmony

Jade Goody's only mistake, was, to argue and make comments towards and Indian woman.

THAT IS IT!!!!!

If she had argued or made comments to an Italian man or woman, Jade Goody would be able to walk down any street and feel safe and secure.

Not entirely true. Do you actually know the meaning of the word "racism"? It is to do with RACE, not the colour of your skin! If, say, Tony Danza went in, and she referred to him as Tony pizzaface or whatever. I am sure a lot of Italians would be upset by this. Similarly, if she referred to Jackie Chan as Jackie egg fried rice, then she would upset the chinese community. Think about what you say before you say it.

[GiRTh]

Lay off nodisharmony BAZ. Now that I know he hears voices I'm finding his posts highly amusing.

By the way, nodisharmony what do the voices in you head sound like. Is it a man's or a woman's voice. I've always wondered.

[Mrluvaluva]

[i]Originally posted by GRiT

Lay off nodisharmony BAZ.

Ooooooh! Are you being "converted"? Judas! We better keep this on topic or we will get moaned at again.

[spacebandit]

Originally posted by nodisharmony

It is like going to London on a tube train and seeing an Iraqi or someone that looks like one.

If they had a suitcase or rucksack and they were looking shifty. People may assume the worst.

So all Iraqi's are terrorists ?,
or "someone who looks like one", looks like what ?
arabic ?, of middle eastern descent

well thats certainly a catch all stereotype you are prepetuating, perhaps you think all Muslims are terrorists too - there is a certain kind who think that way.

Here you are perpetuating the myth that if they look a certain way - namely arabic, or of middle east descent they are terrorists.

franky, THAT .....I find racist.



true colours indeed.

[Mrluvaluva]

Originally posted by spacebandit

So all Iraqi's are terrorists ?,
or "someone who looks like one", looks like what ?
arabic ?, of middle eastern descent

well thats certainly a catch all stereotype you are prepetuating, perhaps you think all Muslims are terrorists too - there is a certain kind who think that way.

Here you are perpetuating the myth that if they look a certain way - namely arabic, or of middle east descent they are terrorists.

franky, THAT .....I find racist.



true colours indeed.

True. I do not look at "Iraqis or someone who looks like one" and think that, and I travel on the tube every day. Only a minority of people would do that Like Space says......................

[nodisharmony]

Originally posted by mansi
how could you compare that to jade's situation...? jade created this "nightmare" for herself

Jade Goody was being a housemate on a reality show for her third time.

How was anybody to know what a furore this particular series could have caused

Jade was none the wiser

[nodisharmony]

Originally posted by Dr43%er
Nodisharmony said.

This is an out and out lie as the first post in this thread is word for word exactly the same as a post he made over at the now defunct
jadegoodyonline forums.

Dr 43%er

My first post on this forum was answering questions to a news paper story.

A longer story which required a different approach.