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This is the thing that annoys me about the whole Yes campaign. They cannot take no for an answer.
But in saying that, due to the results of Brexit and more bad decisions by the current Tory government, I'd probably vote yes this time around. |
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Lets say that Scotland get another vote and decide to leave the UK. Will this angry dwarf then go ahead and push for another vote to reverse it or will she not mention it again now that the vote has finally gone her way?
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It's only fair they're doing it since they're being forced out of the EU against the majority's will in Scotland.
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i think she should go ahead and hold another vote, and when she again gets told to f off, she can find another excuse to do it again in 2 years time. Eventually, people will say enough is enough and boot them out of power.
What she has failed to mention is that Scotland would need to make a net contribution if it wanted to join the EU as an independent Scotland, i'm sure that will go down really well with the voters |
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The SNP have always been clear about their desire to leave the UK. The party were voted into power democratically with that being known. Therefore, the majority voted for a party who they knew would try for independence. That - along with the drastic change of circumstances in the UK since the first vote - is a very clear mandate for them to do everything in their power to pursue that goal.
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Yes its a hideous choice for sure |
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You have more self government as part of the UK than you would ever have with the EU. You have more self government than the English do. Where is the English Assembly?
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It's not a "swap", I personally don't believe that the UK (with or without Scotland being part of it) can or will survive (as we know it) outside of the EU anyway.
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But it seems to me a swap is exactly what Nicola Sturgeon is going after.
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Unless something is dues to change drastically with the way the EU works, then no, you can't equate EU membership to the control that Westminster governments have in Scotland currently.
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Know what is hilarious though? That all of the "better together" campaigners last time around touted the fact that we would "lose our EU membership if we split" as a major reason for maintaining the Union.... ... ... And then the same people campaigned to give up our EU membership.
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I'll just say again that's the Scottish governments deficit spending not Westminsters
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..I wonder how another vote now would effect the people in Scotland in terms of possibly further dividing and being counter productive, no matter what the vote outcome...with the Scottish Independent vote, I recall listening to some stories from someone on another forum of how communities/even families were split in the force of their passion, some being shunned because of how they intended to vote....anyway as a general, I don't think that low morale etc and feeling deflated which many feel atm, is a time to make important decisions such as this../a time to vote on something like this which is the rub really...I think that was some of the thing with Brexit as well...the immigration crisis/extreme terror attacks etc and some votes made with a feeling of helplessness and loss of control/fear and feeling that Brexiting would get the control back...but all it's really done (for the moment..)..is added a divide into the mix and added ore negative feelings, which is never a good thing because a country has to be strong and united for such steps....I just don't think that 'reactionary voting' is good sound voting in the results it brings and especially something as important as this....not a decision that I would want to face in the upcoming anyway..I try not to even go clothes shopping when I'm feeling grumpy because I know that thing will just sit in my wardrobe with....what the heck was I thinking....
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Well since she's the leader of the Scottish Nationalist Party, then no she wouldn't want a vote to reverse a 'yes' decision isn't that pretty obvious.
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