[Rob!]

He'll protect us from a hateful foreign ideology...?

Good ****ing god.

[Jamie89]

Originally Posted by Rob!

He'll protect us from a hateful foreign ideology...?

Good ****ing god.

Yeah, it could be said that he's using gay people to push an anti foreigner agenda imo. It's all just how you look at it I suppose. Personally I don't trust most of the things politicians say during campaigns or take them on face value because everything they are saying has been scripted and designed specifically to try and win votes, and his campaign does seem to have ridden on a wave of anti-foreign sentiment somewhat. Before anyone starts I'm not trying to call out racism but I think it's clear that however it's justified, whether it's simply worrying about immigration issues, and rights/wrongs aside, there is a growing fear among a great deal of people of the foreign person and the impact they're having on 'us'. And the direction of his speech being 'we'll protect the gays from the foreigners' seems pretty clear. And it's actually really clever because the republicans know they have a harder time getting the gay vote, so by positioning it in that way, in almost a threatening 'you need our protection' kind of way, in highlighting a 'common enemy', in making gay people feel accepted where they didn't before (because of people like Pence, ironically) it's just yeah, very clever. Because really, and what a lot of gay people need to realise is, that people like Trump or anyone else shouldn't be praised for not being homophobic. It should be a given. We should expect him to stand up for gay rights because that's our society now, not be surprised and in awe that he's willing to do so, and how generous it is of him. In the position of President it's his duty to stand up for gay citizens, him doing so isn't going out of his way or going beyond what's expected. So him making a point of it, it's likely that it comes with an agenda, and people should consider what that agenda is. And in the context of this speech, I think it's likely that his agenda was his immigration policies. Basically you've been used, gays.

[Cal.]

Obama clearly regretted voting to oppose gay marriage because he did so much for the gay community when he was in power. I doubt Trump will be doing the same with a raging homophobe as his right hand man.

[letmein]

Originally Posted by Cal.

Obama clearly regretted voting to oppose gay marriage because he did so much for the gay community when he was in power. I doubt Trump will be doing the same with a raging homophobe as his right hand man.

Obama never voted to oppose gay marriage. He was for it in the 90s.

[Cal.]

Note: Tinashe endorsed the gays before it was popular and so she should be President.

[Northern Monkey]

Well i think that whatever anyone thinks his motives are.The fact is that he just got a load of Republicans cheering for and supporting the gays.That can't be a bad thing.He's making the effort if nothing else.I think no matter what anyone thinks of Trump.He is going to be president and if he does something positive it's just as important to recognise that as to recognise anything negative he might do.

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

Well i think that whatever anyone thinks his motives are.The fact is that he just got a load of Republicans cheering for and supporting the gays.That can't be a bad thing.He's making the effort if nothing else.I think no matter what anyone thinks of Trump.He is going to be president and if he does something positive it's just as important to recognise that as to recognise anything negative he might do.

Great post. Great points.

Trump has started as he means to go on, and it is ALL good so far. He may yet surprise some people and turn out to be a GOOD President.