[GiRTh]

Originally posted by nodisharmony

"Not much to say to your replies?"

Pretty predictable.

The whole situation that Jade, Jo and Danielle find themselves in, is all down to race.

To not debate that, is very stupid indeed.

I don't expect you to agree on that, as you have already made your past feelings clear. We all know that!!

The topic title says: Jade's new race row (press report & discussion)

I see the word, (race) in there! Whoops!

The thread does have the word race in it - well done for being able to read it - but to imply all Asians look the same is not the kind of debate we were looking for.

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[Mrluvaluva]

[i]Originally posted by nodisharmony

The topic title says: Jade's new race row (press report & discussion)

I see the word, (race) in there! Whoops!

That was the title on the front page of The Star as you can see. The actual story is not about race so drop it now please before it gets out of hand. We have discussed race issues with you before. We are quite aware of your views and do not need to go over it all again.

[Dr43%er]

Someone once said to me "give them enough rope...."

I will try and keep out of this one as I think in my short time here I have made my viewpoint on where Nodisharmony is coming from clear. Plus, if I do put anything questioning Nodisharmony's stance he gets it removed and tries to get me warning.

So schtum from me. This will be hard. Wish me luck.

Dr 43%er.

[nodisharmony]

Originally posted by BAZG

It is not nice to assume something of someone now is it nodisharmony? Don't make speculative comments about someone, just because they do not agree with you. It's wrong and you know it.

I treat people as they treat me.

Respect me for standing up for Jade Goody, just as I would respect someone defending Chantelle.

I would debate their wrong's, but never turn nasty and personal to another forum user, unless they have been offensive to me!

However, I tend to be more restrained than some others.

Have a good look through past threads and the truth is out there.

[James]

Jade Goody is boring.

[Ella]

Originally posted by James
Jade Goody is boring.

Couldn't have put it better myself!

[nodisharmony]

Originally posted by BAZG
You know something nodisharmony, it was you who bought the race issue up in the first place. You should know by now this is a touchy subject. The thing that gets peoples backs up, besides issues of race, is that you never have a bad word to say about Jade. Everything she does is fine in your eyes. She cannot put a foot wrong. Maybe people might respect you more if you gave YOUR OWN honest opinion (I apologise for using capitals, but are merely using this as an emphasis), and stopped seeing everything through Jades' rose coloured spectacles. She is not perfect you know.

The race issue is a very touchy issue, agreed!

All you have to do is say the word, "the" next to the word, "Inidan" and someone will scrutinize it and call a forum user racist.

I hope Big Brother 8 has less people with that opinion, or we will have "January" all over again, due to lesser things said.

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I know Jade Goody is not perfect! I have said that, but naturally, as a supporter of her, it is not for me to point out Jade's faults! It is up to others to point out and prove her wrongs, if she is wrong or can be proved!

[Dr43%er]

Must.....try.....................to............... ....keep.................mouth...........shut.

[Mrluvaluva]

Originally posted by nodisharmony

I treat people as they treat me.

Respect me for standing up for Jade Goody, just as I would respect someone defending Chantelle.

I would debate their wrong's, but never turn nasty and personal to another forum user, unless they have been offensive to me!

However, I tend to be more restrained than some others.

Have a good look through past threads and the truth is out there.

Two wrongs don't make a right (not that I am saying you are wrong Girth. I am not taking sides. I have my own points of view and think for myself, so no comment on that). Just because you may find someone "offensive", does not mean that you have to be offensive to them. If that's what you do, then that makes you no better than them now does it.

[GiRTh]

Originally posted by nodisharmony

I treat people as they treat me.

Do people repeat the same waffle to you. I think not.

Respect me for standing up for Jade Goody, just as I would respect someone defending Chantelle.

Do what you want pal.

I would debate their wrong's, but never turn nasty and personal to another forum user, unless they have been offensive to me!

You've never debated any of Jades wrongs and you cannot stay off the subject of race.

However, I tend to be more restrained than some others.

Don't make me larf. Calling me uneducated was a particular low point for you.

Have a good look through past threads and the truth is out there.

Your posts tend to repeat themselves, so I'll pass on that one.

[nodisharmony]

Originally posted by GiRTh

The thread does have the word race in it - well done for being able to read it - but to imply all Asians look the same is not the kind of debate we were looking for.

You're views on race aren't really valid as we know where you stand - 'send the bugger back' eh.

I should report that slanderous comment!

You know nothing about me, other than what you read!

That comment is making me consider ignoring all of your future posts.

Please remove the slander.

[GiRTh]

Originally posted by nodisharmony

I should report that slanderous comment!

You know nothing about me, other than what you read!

That comment is making me consider ignoring all of your future posts.

Please remove the slander.

In fact I'll correct the spelling mistake

[Dr43%er]

Please remove the slander.

Come on nodis. I told you about this over at JDonline. It's libel, not slander. Of course you would have to prove that your good character had been damaged to others. As no one knows who you really are, this is not possible.

Please keep up.

[Dr43%er]

Dam. I tried, honest.

[nodisharmony]

Originally posted by BAZG

That was the title on the front page of The Star as you can see. The actual story is not about race so drop it now please before it gets out of hand. We have discussed race issues with you before. We are quite aware of your views and do not need to go over it all again.

Jade-Haters vs Jade-Supporters.

Of course, anyone who support's Jade, Danielle or Jo must have racial views themselves?

That is what you are saying? I think!

[Mrluvaluva]

Originally posted by nodisharmony

Jade-Haters vs Jade-Supporters.


Of course, anyone who support's Jade, Danielle or Jo must have racial views themselves?

That is what you are saying? I think!

Everybody has different racial views. I am just saying we are well aware of each others. The story is about Jade wanting to appear on the cover of Asiana in a sari. Why do you think she would want to do that?

[GiRTh]

Originally posted by nodisharmony

Jade-Haters vs Jade-Supporters.

Why do you assume we are Jade-Haters. It's so childish like being at school. take That or Boyzone. Why do we have to be in one camp do you think people are that one dimensional.

Of course, anyone who support's Jade, Danielle or Jo must have racial views themselves?

What a huge leap much like your 'all Asians look the same' leap

That is what you are saying? I think!

Would you be surprised to hear that's not what I'm saying. You're trying - much like Jade - to claim that people are against you.

[James]

Getting a bit heated here. Best if you get back on-topic and discuss the story in question rather than each other...

Jade Goody is boring.

There back on-topic.

[nodisharmony]

Originally posted by BAZG

Everybody has different racial views. I am just saying we are well aware of each others. The story is about Jade wanting to appear on the cover of Asiana in a sari. Why do you think she would want to do that?

I would expect, ("just trying to be judgemental here"), That, Jade Goody would think that it would help her situation.

I know that her India trip was a good thing.

She gave money away to a worthy charity.

Sadly, people do hate her and if she can help the situation further, then she will.

I would imagine that she is still thinking of her children and also, wanting to feel safer anyway.

Also, Jade Goody may have come up with this idea over a bowl of "Cornflakes?" (as quick as that!)

[GiRTh]

Originally posted by nodisharmony
The race issue is a very touchy issue, agreed!

Such insight.

All you have to do is say the word, "the" next to the word, "Inidan" and someone will scrutinize it and call a forum user racist.

There you go again. 'The Indian' is a racially motivated comment. I don't remember anybody calling anybody in BB 'the gay' or 'the Irish. You seem to think that kind of thing is OK. And hence, I form an opinion of you that concludes that you're racist. I'm not doing this on my own. You are contributing more than you'll ever know.

I hope Big Brother 8 has less people with that opinion, or we will have "January" all over again, due to lesser things said.

Me too.

I know Jade Goody is not perfect! I have said that, but naturally, as a supporter of her, it is not for me to point out Jade's faults! It is up to others to point out and prove her wrongs, if she is wrong or can be proved!

That's the point. All you ever do is say 'Jade Goody is not perfect' then , when one of us points something specific out you simply skate over it like it's no big deal and you have some kind of pipeline to 'Jade Goody's' thoughts..

[GiRTh]

After careful deliberation and a little bit of polite persuasion, I've decided to edit the post that offended nodisharmony. I completely stand by what I said but for the sake of keeping the peace, I've decided to be the bigger man and back down.

[nodisharmony]

Originally posted by GiRTh
After careful deliberation and a little bit of polite persuasion, I've decided to edit the post that offended nodisharmony. I completely stand by what I said but for the sake of keeping the peace, I've decided to be the bigger man and back down.

Peace and nodisharmony go together hand in hand!

Your opinions are based on UTU's from "x" & "y" who I don't need to name.

All I ask, is, try to have less scrutiny over what is said by anybody.

Jade Goody may not be such an expert in being careful.

She's a cockney and is used to mixing with many who don't be careful. (You know what I mean?)

The word "the" and "Indian", may have the word, "beautiful" inbetween the two.

But you could easily edit that to sound different, if you take the word, "beautiful" out of the quote.

[Mrluvaluva]

Yes, but there is a difference between "editing" and "quoting". I could raise issue with the "cockney" thing as I live in East London, and am used to stereotypical comments, but I won't.

[Lauren]

Originally posted by nodisharmony
She's a cockney and is used to mixing with many who don't be careful. (You know what I mean?)

Sorry... what?

[nodisharmony]

Originally posted by BAZG
Yes, but there is a difference between "editing" and "quoting". I could raise issue with the "cockney" thing as I live in East London, and am used to stereotypical comments, but I won't.

That would be over scrutizing.

You know what I mean..