[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

The real meaning of “charity begins at home” is, “children learn about being charitable in the home they are raised in”.

Britain ruled half the world until 70 years ago - whilst you may of washed your hands of that legacy, I haven't. How about we give back all the wealth we extracted before we claim other countries troubles are nothing to do with us.

Good for you. As I said I believe charity begins at home and as taking in so many has a significant impact on them that's where my main concern lies.

[user104658]

This "first safe country" idea is utter nonsense. The nearby countries don't have the resources to keep these people alive... ... is the argument that once they are safe from being shot or blown up, they should be content to quietly starve to death?

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Toy Santa

This "first safe country" idea is utter nonsense. The nearby countries don't have the resources to keep these people alive... ... is the argument that once they are safe from being shot or blown up, they should be content to quietly starve to death?

There are plenty of safe countries where they won't 'starve to death' before getting to Britain. Safe countries that don't have such a generous welfare system!

People are hungry/starving in many parts of the world are we supposed to take them all in?

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

There are plenty of safe countries where they won't 'starve to death' before getting to Britain. Safe countries that don't have such a generous welfare system!

People are hungry/starving in many parts of the world are we supposed to take them all in?

We're not "supposed" to do anything, obviously it's not economically viable to take in every struggling family in the world, but blaming THEM for wanting it is ridiculous. Anyone in this country who claims that, in the same situation, they wouldn't do the same is straight up lying .

[Crimson Dynamo]

Australia had this problem and they solved it

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Make Christmas Great Again

Australia had this problem and they solved it

Probably because they didn't allow themselves to be brow-beaten into submission to the politically correct. Great nation.

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

Probably because they didn't allow themselves to be brow-beaten into submission to the politically correct. Great nation.

Oh come on, this site you and I are using has to be one of the most politically correct forums in the western world!

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by Make Christmas Great Again

Australia had this problem and they solved it

No surprise there...Australia has to be one of the most nationalist countries I’ve ever had the misfortune of visiting.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

No surprise there...Australia has to be one of the most nationalist countries I’ve ever had the misfortune of visiting.

yes it has a reputation for being a vile mess

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

No surprise there...Australia has to be one of the most nationalist countries I’ve ever had the misfortune of visiting.

And one of the most successful and desirable places to live. It looks after its own and everyone wants a piece of it.

[Kizzy]

Australia has a solid history of abuses, look what they did to their indigenous population, look also what they did to the orphans we sent after WW2.
Does anyone else worry that we are moving away from countries where human rights are respected to those where they aren't?
If not, why not, is it because we believe some people are not human?...

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Merry Corbynmas

Australia has a solid history of abuses, look what they did to their indigenous population, look also what they did to the orphans we sent after WW2.
Does anyone else worry that we are moving away from countries where human rights are respected to those where they aren't?
If not, why not, is it because we believe some people are not human?...

wait

what?

who is talking about abuses?

what are you calling out Australia about?

[Kizzy]

Here is a good article it explains why many in this nation aren't as affected by tragedy overseas, well ones we had a hand in anyway...

https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...on-for-britain

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Merry Corbynmas

Here is a good article it explains why many in this nation aren't as affected by tragedy overseas, well ones we had a hand in anyway...

https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...on-for-britain

hi

do you have any other sources that are not the guardian or new statesman or the canary?

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Make Christmas Great Again

hi

do you have any other sources that are not the guardian or new statesman or the canary?

I don't quote the new statesman, it isn't available to reference anywhere else.
You are not obliged to read it.

[Crimson Dynamo]

so no