[Wizard.]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Hat's off to you Paul Mc Kenna! :/

The elections were held in mainly predominantly conservative areas, I'm not worried.... Yet.

Idk where you get that from? Sweety Labour lost 150 seats and counting hasn't even finished yet. That's Labour areas.

[user104658]

Surely it's pretty much already set in stone that England is intent on self-destructing. People on low and middle incomes merrily trotting out to vote for people who look at them like something they're trying to scrape off of their shoe... it's hilarious .

Still holding onto vague hopes that Scotland can escape from this ****ing madness before you drag us down with you . No results declared yet for Scotland but I am (mostly) confident that it will predominantly be a nice warm yellow .

[Wizard.]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Surely it's pretty much already set in stone that England is intent on self-destructing. People on low and middle incomes merrily trotting out to vote for people who look at them like something they're trying to scrape off of their shoe... it's hilarious .

Still holding onto vague hopes that Scotland can escape from this ****ing madness before you drag us down with you . No results declared yet for Scotland but I am (mostly) confident that it will predominantly be a nice warm yellow .

Yes enjoy independence I'm sure you'll enjoy the nice big divorce bill that comes with it

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Riley.

Yes enjoy independence I'm sure you'll enjoy the nice big divorce bill that comes with it

Typical Tory nastiness

[Parmy]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Surely it's pretty much already set in stone that England is intent on self-destructing. People on low and middle incomes merrily trotting out to vote for people who look at them like something they're trying to scrape off of their shoe... it's hilarious .

Still holding onto vague hopes that Scotland can escape from this ****ing madness before you drag us down with you . No results declared yet for Scotland but I am (mostly) confident that it will predominantly be a nice warm yellow .

scotland should vote tory. like paisley has.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by parmnion

scotland should vote tory. like paisley has.

Fergulsie Park, one of the poorest areas in the entire country. I can only guess they're simply so depressed that they've become suicidal.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Surely it's pretty much already set in stone that England is intent on self-destructing. People on low and middle incomes merrily trotting out to vote for people who look at them like something they're trying to scrape off of their shoe... it's hilarious .

Still holding onto vague hopes that Scotland can escape from this ****ing madness before you drag us down with you . No results declared yet for Scotland but I am (mostly) confident that it will predominantly be a nice warm yellow .

Talk about a chip on the shoulder, I am sure most people are savvy enough to realise getting the country back on it's feet will be no easy ride,lots of us find it hard,but better that than plunging into massive debt again.We are lucky in this country things could be so much worse, time to get on with it instead of whining so much.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Talk about a chip on the shoulder, I am sure most people are savvy enough to realise getting the country back on it's feet will be no easy ride,lots of us find it hard,but better that than plunging into massive debt again.We are lucky in this country things could be so much worse, time to get on with it instead of whining so much.

You can't "get a country back on its feet" with austerity, and things will get much worse.

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

You can't "get a country back on its feet" with austerity, and things will get much worse.

[reece(:]

Rather tragic but only the oldies really vote on Local elections

[Wizard.]

Originally Posted by reece(:

Rather tragic but only the oldies really vote on Local elections

Yeah I'm sure Labour voters were out fulfilling charitable work, feeding the children, so couldn't vote. And young people will talk about how their lives have been robbed but obviously, snapchat takes priority.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by reece(:

Rather tragic but only the oldies really vote on Local elections

True... and that's shameful. Older people are not another species, they are young people who've got older. If only we could engage the younger generation to take more responsibility in this. If all young peolle were engaged as much as the young people on here, the political landscape would look much different.

That said.... this is yet more proof that Corbyn will run Labour into the ground and that his supporters don't really care... or don't understand. He is the greatest weapon in the Tory arsenal.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Livia

True... and that's shameful. Older people are not another species, they are young people who've got older. If only we could engage the younger generation to take more responsibility in this. If all young peolle were engaged as much as the young people on here, the political landscape would look much different.

That said.... this is yet more proof that Corbyn will run Labour into the ground and that his supporters don't really care... or don't understand. He is the greatest weapon in the Tory arsenal.

OR... That older people don't understand or care what young people want.

What don't Corbyn supporters understand?

[Wizard.]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

OR... That older people don't understand or care what young people want.

What don't Corbyn supporters understand?

How ridiculous that old people should vote for what young people want. I'm 21 and every one has the right to vote for what they want, if they don't vote, they shouldn't have older people voting for them - do young people want them to wipe their arse as well?

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Riley.

How ridiculous that old people should vote for what young people want. I'm 21 and every one has the right to vote for what they want, if they don't vote, they shouldn't have older people voting for them - do young people want them to wipe their arse as well?

No no no , it's young people who have to wipe the old people's arses. Oh wait... no... because the Tories are dismantling healthcare brick by brick. So no one will be wiping their senile old arses and they'll just have to live squirming in a heap of their own ****. But they knew what they were voting for sooo .

[arista]

Originally Posted by reece(:

Rather tragic but only the oldies really vote on Local elections

The Young stay in bed

[Wizard.]

Word in the air is that some Scottish councils are losing SNP council seats to the conservatives. Woohoo!

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Riley.

Word in the air is that some Scottish councils are losing SNP council seats to the conservatives. Woohoo!

Sort of inevitable, we have The Brexit Effect to thank for that. Brexit / Union supporters tactically voting Tory as the "respresentative party" of that decision. Tory local councils will be a disaster for Scottish towns, I'm honestly quite concerned about people's drive to self-harm.

[user104658]

I would also offer the flipside; my youngest daughter (aged 4) is disabled and will have to navigate this system throughout her entire life, and honestly, under a Tory regime I really struggle to see the "hope for her future".

[Denver]

I am astounded at people thinking Corbyn will be the best leader the word has seen

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Adam.

I am astounded at people thinking Corbyn will be the best leader the word has seen

Who thinks that?

[Denver]

Everyone who wants him in charge.

His only plan is to run this country into the ground

[Northern Monkey]

All this blaming the voters is futile.

Why are people voting the way they are?

Because the supposed UK opposition party are not doing their job anywhere near well enough.
It's their job to hold the government to account,It's their job to win the propaganda war,it's their job to attract voters,it's their job to have strong enough policies and it's their job to select decent candidates to lead their party.

If people won't vote for them then they need to change things up and find what works.

I don't want the Tories in power for the foreseeable future but this is the sad reality of having totally weak opposition parties in a democracy.

[Scarlett.]

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

All this blaming the voters is futile.

Why are people voting the way they are?

Because they swallow the 'strong and stable leadership' bull**** without even looking into any of the Tory policies or into what they've done to this country in the last 7 years.

[Parmy]

Originally Posted by Chewy

Because they swallow the 'strong and stable leadership' bull**** without even looking into any of the Tory policies or into what they've done to this country in the last 7 years.

Increased jobs, built houses, raised minimum wage..3 biggies for me.