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Old 06-05-2017, 03:43 PM #26
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Typical Scottish attitude there
I think you're mistaken about what it means to be "typically Scottish"
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And the schoolchildren in Beijing or Brazil being taught by British teachers?
The patients in Syria being treated by British doctors?
Can the British journalists living in Iraq can integrate with locals?

Unless you think these people (and the thousands of others I've not mentioned) should all be fired asap, your point is hypocritical.
The teachers in the better schools learnt he Language

The doctors are there to save lives not Live there forever

British Journalists lives are in danger over there so why will they integrate
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I think you're mistaken about what it means to be "typically Scottish"
Well its always the Scottish that accuse everyone of being racist
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Well its always the Scottish that accuse everyone of being racist
Is it?
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Yea also he fact you are saying if you are white you get away with not speaking the language when the Polish are the worst and not speaking English
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Not Adam making up stereotypes
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Yea also he fact you are saying if you are white you get away with not speaking the language when the Polish are the worst and not speaking English
Why should they need to speak English?
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Because they expect to live in the UK claiming benefits using the NHS getting customer based jobs so yes they should be forced to speak English
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The teachers in the better schools learnt he Language

The doctors are there to save lives not Live there forever

British Journalists lives are in danger over there so why will they integrate
No they dont. If you want to apply for a TEFL in any country tomorrow, you can. Learning the language is not a requirement.
"Life being in danger" is a weird get-out clause that youve made up on the spot right now to try and piece together your strange argument, which is still hypocritical.
plenty of doctors choose to treat abroad throughout their life. Learning a language is not their priority, perfecting surgical procedures is.
Holiday reps, waiters, and bartenders and those in plenty more lines of work often choose to live in exotic countries throughout their life, and it is not mandatory for them to learn the language.
I dont think it should be mandatory either, they are providing a service, and thhey are presumably good at their job. Its a brave move, and good luck to them.
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Because they expect to live in the UK claiming benefits using the NHS getting customer based jobs so yes they should be forced to speak English
What if they are mute?
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What if they are mute?
They have to learn English sign language of course!!
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No they dont. If you want to apply for a TEFL in any country tomorrow, you can. Learning the language is not a requirement.
"Life being in danger" is a weird get-out clause that youve made up on the spot right now to try and piece together your strange argument, which is still hypocritical.
plenty of doctors choose to treat abroad throughout their life. Learning a language is not their priority, perfecting surgical procedures is.
Holiday reps, waiters, and bartenders and those in plenty more lines of work often choose to live in exotic countries throughout their life, and it is not mandatory for them to learn the language.
I dont think it should be mandatory either, they are providing a service, and thhey are presumably good at their job. Its a brave move, and good luck to them.
Oh i forgot Journalists are never kidnapped and kiled in wore torn countries
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What if they are mute?
That is a totally different subject
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That is a totally different subject
I don't think it is

You said that they should be "forced" to learn English but that isn't so simple for some people
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Oh i forgot Journalists are never kidnapped and kiled in worn torn countries
There is a reasonable threat of danger in every coutry, for natives, and migrants. Knowing or not knowing the language doesnt detract from this. Its a weird argument to make in a serious discussion.
If you dont believe that people should learn the language if they move to a country where they are under threat, then the thread can be closed. Its clearly never mandatory.
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There is a reasonable threat of danger in every coutry, for natives, and migrants. Knowing or not knowing the language doesnt detract from this. Its a weird argument to make in a serious discussion.
It is a valid argument to make actually
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It is a valid argument to make actually
Actually, it suggests that learning the language should never be mandatory.
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If people come here without the basic skills required to work and support themselves, they should be sent back. They should certainly not receive benefits.

We are not a charity for those who want us to better their lives for them but don't want to make the effort to do so themselves.

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Actually, it suggests that learning the language should never be mandatory.
They put there lives on the line to get information for the British not to live a happy life there
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If people come here without the basic skills required to work and support themselves, they should be sent back. They should certainly not receive benefits.

We are not a charity for those who want us to better their lives for them but don't want to make the effort to do so themselves.
Oh people expect us to put the taxes up to pay for them
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They put there lives on the line to get information for the British not to live a happy life there
Your argument is completely incoherent. You're making up rules for Brits on the spot, and claiming that these new made up rules dont exist for non-brits. You want it ine way, not both. Your argument is drowning in hypocrisy and I struggle to believe you dont see that, I think you're just arguing for the sake of arguing tbh.
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Your argument is completely incoherent. You're making up rules for Brits on the spot, and claiming that these new made up rules dont exist for non-brits. You want it ine way, not both. Your argument is drowning in hypocrisy and I struggle to believe you dont see that, I think you're just arguing for the sake of arguing tbh.
My argument is valid i do not pay my taxes for someone who doesnt want to speak the language or care about the country
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My argument is valid i do not pay my taxes for someone who doesnt want to speak the language
You are actually, we all are. Time to put on your big boy pants and accept this as an adult, who can too move to other countries without learning the language, as it is not a mandatory requirementof others, or of us.
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You are actually, we all are. Time to put on your big boy pants and accept this as an adult, who can too move to other countries without learning the language, as it is not a mandatory requirementof others, or of us.
Erm Theresa will put a stop to it and she will but a green card system just like Australia and throw all the lay abouts who come here for a easy time out of the country
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Erm Theresa will put a stop to it and she will but a green card system just like Australia and throw all the lay abouts who come here for a easy time out of the country
Youre gonna be pouting, crossing your arms, and stomping your feet for a long time m89
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