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smudgie · 22-05-2017, 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

Your kidding. The last thing I want is a future where my kids and future grandchildren will struggle. I have read, researched and taken on board this two sided debate with such thoroughness, its left me with only one conclusion, Labours fiscal plans can and will work. Tory fiscal plans will stagnate our economy more and more and they are the last thing we need with Brexit coming up.

Unless you are earning in access of £150K a year, why on earth would you vote the Tories in?

Lots of people have different views and make their choice on those views.
People from all sides read up on it, taking in truths and lies, but when it comes to the crunch we all make our own minds up on what we believe to be right.

Denver · 22-05-2017, 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

Your kidding. The last thing I want is a future where my kids and future grandchildren will struggle. I have read, researched and taken on board this two sided debate with such thoroughness, its left me with only one conclusion, Labours fiscal plans can and will work. Tory fiscal plans will stagnate our economy more and more and they are the last thing we need with Brexit coming up.

Unless you are earning in access of £150K a year, why on earth would you vote the Tories in?

Unless you want a future where the UK is in severe debt which Labour have promised to keep increasing and the country to be over crowed why would you vote labour

DemolitionRed · 22-05-2017, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Adam.

Unless you want a future where the UK is in severe debt which Labour have promised to keep increasing and the country to be over crowed why would you vote labour

Ok can you explain that to me better so that I may understand because I obviously don't want to vote for a party that are going to do this.

Denver · 22-05-2017, 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

Ok can you explain that to me better so that I may understand because I obviously don't want to vote for a party that are going to do this.

Labour have said they will continue to borrow billions each year which will create a hell of a lot more debt to the UK and they want to keep open borders open to allow everyone to come to the UK and claim free money they are not entitled to

Brillopad · 22-05-2017, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Kazanne

Makes me smile how the promises by Labour are believed without question and followed blindly ,they have never lied to the public have they?

It makes me smile that his followers talk of others bring gullible. They are buying into it hook, line and sinker.

Denver · 22-05-2017, 10:05 AM

So who is going to pay for tutors wages? Books? Upgrades to the uni? Stuff like that

Cherie · 22-05-2017, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Adam.

So who is going to pay for tutors wages? Books? Upgrades to the uni? Stuff like that

Students pay for their own books, halls of residence fees which students will still have to pay for the upkeep costs and beyond 120.00 for a single room for a week which you have to pay for for 38 weeks of the year even though some students finished in March and can home study, some unis rent out their rooms in the summer as well, how to Scottish unis pay their lecturer fees? and how do Welsh unis pay theirs on 3000 a year fees?

Denver · 22-05-2017, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Cherie

Students pay for their own books, halls of residence fees which students will still have to pay for the upkeep costs and beyond 120.00 for a single room for a week which you have to pay for for 38 weeks of the year even though some students finished in March and can home study, some unis rent out their rooms in the summer as well, how to Scottish unis pay their lecturer fees? and how do Welsh unis pay theirs on 3000 a year fees?

The Scottish pay theirs by stealing from the school funding.

DemolitionRed · 22-05-2017, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Adam.

So who is going to pay for tutors wages? Books? Upgrades to the uni? Stuff like that

Its self generating. If all we have to pay back to the central bank is taxes, we generate tax by employing people, by getting workers to upgrade things and by selling books. Surely you understand how that works? its simple maths.

reece(: · 22-05-2017, 10:21 AM

Here for my last year of uni being free

Denver · 22-05-2017, 11:26 AM

Higher education is a privilege not a guarantee

Tregard · 22-05-2017, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Adam.

Higher education is a privilege not a guarantee

Well if this is your mentality then you're never going to agree with the nut and bolts of this argument, are you? Labour could be willing the money into existence at no damage to the economy, and it would still be "money better spent elsewhere" if you believe higher education is a privilege.

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Originally Posted by the truth

no doubt millions of young kids can enroll on labours breed for benefits programme...get 8 kids by 25 and you can get an 6 bedroom detached house all bills included and not a days work to get it...thanks to labour and santa corbyn...oh and the kids in turn learn you get all this for nothing, only fools and horses work

This is just rambling nonsense

the truth · 22-05-2017, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Tregard

Well if this is your mentality then you're never going to agree with the nut and bolts of this argument, are you? Labour could be willing the money into existence at no damage to the economy, and it would still be "money better spent elsewhere" if you believe higher education is a privilege.

This is just rambling nonsense

not its FACT

Tregard · 22-05-2017, 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by the truth

not its FACT

Well that's me convinced.

If you want to actually talk out the issues of the politics, that may be an interesting discussion. Labour aren't perfect by a longshot, but these are aspirational goals for our society to a large percentage of the population. You can disagree with the means of getting there, but shouting into your echo chamber about "Santa Corbyn" just makes you look foolish.

Denver · 22-05-2017, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Tregard

Well if this is your mentality then you're never going to agree with the nut and bolts of this argument, are you? Labour could be willing the money into existence at no damage to the economy, and it would still be "money better spent elsewhere" if you believe higher education is a privilege.

You get 10 free years why should you get another 10?

For you to do all that hard work for Labour to triple the UK's debt and triple immigration so you have no chance of getting a job and you wasted years away on a fake promise

Tregard · 22-05-2017, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Adam.

You get 10 free years why should you get another 10?

For you to do all that hard work for Labour to triple the UK's debt and triple immigration so you have no chance of getting a job and you wasted years away on a fake promise

National students will have even worse job prospects if they're not as well equipped academically as their international peers. "Getting another 10 years" is par for the course in much of the western world, and that leaves you with the two options of catching up with them and improving your own population's skill, or shutting out the rest of the world completely.