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Old 22-05-2017, 02:44 PM #1
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You cant claim media twisted it when it was live and he refused to answer many times
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No snap election --we have one
Rises to NI contributions - oops it was in the manifesto, so U turn
Dementia tax-- looks like a u turn coming up
a Remainer but now wants a hard Brexit
Hasn't included her party in her manifesto hence Ruth Davidson ruled out winter fuel payments cuts in Scotland
Scrapping pledges made in 2015 manifesto which she supported...as a five year plan but 2 years later apparently make no sense

whats the next U turn....single market is my guess
changes a mistake is a strength not a weakness
shes agreed to NOT raise VAT which is good news, it should be lowered

but is she really going to go after the corporations?
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Perhaps politicians and the really awful Mrs May would do better to talk to people when devising policy,rather than at them.
Then that would be real leadership with no u-turns needed after a public outrage.

Ensure policies are fair in the first place and more to the point,your word to be stood by and that would be being strong and stable.
Not being forced to change what's planned,only and if, once it's shown to be unfair and more to the point again as in Mrs May's cases,damaging to her power and authority mad obsession.
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Perhaps politicians and the really awful Mrs May would do better to talk to people when devising policy,rather than at them.
Then that would be real leadership with no u-turns needed after a public outrage.

Ensure policies are fair in the first place and more to the point,your word to be stood by and that would be being strong and stable.
Not being forced to change what's planned,only and if, once it's shown to be unfair and more to the point again as in Mrs May's cases,damaging to her power and authority mad obsession.
listening is needed not talking....labour havent listened either for 25 years
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I really can't see anyone else who is capable of running the country at the moment. Bribary policies don't make Labour any less of a shambles.
They still have to pay for all the things.
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I really can't see anyone else who is capable of running the country at the moment. Bribary policies don't make them any less of a shambles.
They still have to pay for all the things.
she seems to be a strong leader, the danger here is though shes sailing through without being thoroughly grilled on everything
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I could understand U-Turns if they were on smaller positions, but almost everything that's major in our current political climate has something she's either wavered on, or completely changed stance on. Corbyn, whilst surrounded by idiots, appears the more principled person. Imagine electing a Prime Minister that isn't a shouty arsehole. Just imagine!
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No snap election --we have one
Rises to NI contributions - oops it was in the manifesto, so U turn
Dementia tax-- looks like a u turn coming up
a Remainer but now wants a hard Brexit
Hasn't included her party in her manifesto hence Ruth Davidson ruled out winter fuel payments cuts in Scotland
Scrapping pledges made in 2015 manifesto which she supported...as a five year plan but 2 years later apparently make no sense

whats the next U turn....single market is my guess
Don't forget

Considering a cap on the dementia tax but refusing to tell us what it is

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No costings for the manifesto while Tories were criticising Labour before they released theirs
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Corbyn has turned more times than Dick Wittington.
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She's so bloody sketchy. Conservative or not how on can you trust someone who completely goes back on her word in a matter of weeks. I couldn't think of anyone worse to represent us in the brexit negotiations.
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She's so bloody sketchy. Conservative or not how on can you trust someone who completely goes back on her word in a matter of weeks. I couldn't think of anyone worse to represent us in the brexit negotiations.
I know of a man.
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True, Farage would be disastrous.
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You're right, he would be. But that's that the one I was thinking of.
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You turns are a sign they are getting it wrong, measure twice cut once.
Conservatives are self harming.
Labour has a leader that supports terrorist's, and would fall in a barrel of titts and come out sucking his thumb.
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Judging by that Andrew Neil interview...
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The Tories are having an absolutely disastrous campaign. If I didn't think it were too sceptical, I'd be inclined to believe they're trying to lose to avoid the calamity of Brexit so that they can lay the blame at Labour's feet for another generation.

It's meaningless though and Labour's poll increases are futile, they're still going to win. People will lap up the empty messages recited over and over, and the turkeys will vote for Christmas once again. This is of course without even considering the fact that Lynton Crosby will soon be on the phone to Dacre and Murdoch demanding they start pumping out the IRA and communist crap in a bid to bury him. Be under no illusion, this will be the biggest all-out assault of a Labour leader by the establishment in recent history. We've seen nothing yet.

Some of their proposals are not just awful, they actually frighten me. The cracking down on the internet. ID cards to vote. The dementia tax. Grammar schools. A fox hunting vote. Quietly dropping the ivory trade ban. Not to mention the continued undermining of the NHS. All of these, and I still haven't finished the manifesto - so God knows what else I'm going to find. This demented, authoritarian, power crazy bitch is about to sleepwalk the UK into a dystopian nightmare, in effect a one-party state, and I feel physically repulsed. This country and its people are awful.

I cannot believe I actually miss the pig ****er. I realise people will deride my hyperbole, but I'm serious. In 2015, I was worried at the thought of the Tories winning the election. Now I'm ****ing terrified.
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The Tories are having an absolutely disastrous campaign. If I didn't think it were too sceptical, I'd be inclined to believe they're trying to lose to avoid the calamity of Brexit so that they can lay the blame at Labour's feet for another generation.

It's meaningless though and Labour's poll increases are futile, they're still going to win. People will lap up the empty messages recited over and over, and the turkeys will vote for Christmas once again. This is of course without even considering the fact that Lynton Crosby will soon be on the phone to Dacre and Murdoch demanding they start pumping out the IRA and communist crap in a bid to bury him. Be under no illusion, this will be the biggest all-out assault of a Labour leader by the establishment in recent history. We've seen nothing yet.

Some of their proposals are not just awful, they actually frighten me. The cracking down on the internet. ID cards to vote. The dementia tax. Grammar schools. A fox hunting vote. Quietly dropping the ivory trade ban. Not to mention the continued undermining of the NHS. All of these, and I still haven't finished the manifesto - so God knows what else I'm going to find. This demented, authoritarian, power crazy bitch is about to sleepwalk the UK into a dystopian nightmare, in effect a one-party state, and I feel physically repulsed. This country and its people are awful.

I cannot believe I actually miss the pig ****er. I realise people will deride my hyperbole, but I'm serious. In 2015, I was worried at the thought of the Tories winning the election. Now I'm ****ing terrified.
I think you have reason to be terrified Jack_
This woman is authority and power mad.

I'm pleased you mentioned the Ivory trade too, another disgrace.
I've always thought you can judge the heart of people from the way they'd have animals treated.

This woman punishes any weakness and is in my opinion so hardline and heartless that even human beings,seen as weak to her,will have not the slightest bit of any respect shown to them.
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It's a complete media myth. She's wobbled and U-Turned way too many times so take seriously when she says that.
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Mr Jaxie looked at me today and said, "Jeremy Corbyn seems like a nice man." I was a bit flabbergasted but thought, well I suppose you did say that about Rolf as well. Then he said, "But it takes more than a nice man to run a country." And I knew we'd make the next wedding anniversary.
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whats the next U turn....single market is my guess

I do not find may stable at all - once we are in june I am confident of the stability of the sun and the heat but I never cast a doubt till may is out
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As stable as a table on 4 cotton buds.

She looks like a shivering mess all the time. It's a shame that it will be a comfortable win for her. Lets be honest.
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