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Old 25-05-2017, 01:33 PM #1
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i will never vote for ukip

but this is a policy that every party should be adopting
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i will never vote for ukip

but this is a policy that every party should be adopting
Agreed.

Any UK citizenship should be given up the minute someone flies out to join them.
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To be honest, I'm always torn on this question. The people who go out there thinking they're going to be waging some honourable holy war and get there to witness rape, murder, torture anbd other unspeakable carnage... I think it will be a wake up call for some young people who have lived the soft life in the UK. If those people were accepted back on condition, I think they could be instrumental in dissuading other young people from becoming radicalised. It's like drug addicts counselling other drug addicts; they're listened to because those being counselled know they have been there themselves. Obviously it would mean a massive amount of debriefing and keeping a close eye on them, probably forever... but if they could help stop young people making their way to join IS, I think it could be worth a try.
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To be honest, I'm always torn on this question. The people who go out there thinking they're going to be waging some honourable holy war and get there to witness rape, murder, torture anbd other unspeakable carnage... I think it will be a wake up call for some young people who have lived the soft life in the UK. If those people were accepted back on condition, I think they could be instrumental in dissuading other young people from becoming radicalised. It's like drug addicts counselling other drug addicts; they're listened to because those being counselled know they have been there themselves. Obviously it would mean a massive amount of debriefing and keeping a close eye on them, probably forever... but if they could help stop young people making their way to join IS, I think it could be worth a try.
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If those people were accepted back on condition, I think they could be instrumental in dissuading other young people from becoming radicalised.
Yeah good point! Revealing their stories in the media about their unfortunate time in Syria or elsewhere would discourage others from going there. Also, 'the returnees' are constantly monitored by the police and rarely pose a big threat.
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It surely depends on what they have done, if they are dangerous we need them off the streets pronto
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1. How do they plan on implementing that? It's very hard to get rid of someone who's legally in the country.

2. The last time UKIP made promises it turned out to be complete and utter lies.

Basically if you lean towards the right go towards the Tories over UKIP.
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1. How do they plan on implementing that? It's very hard to get rid of someone who's legally in the country.

2. The last time UKIP made promises it turned out to be complete and utter lies.

Basically if you lean towards the right go towards the Tories over UKIP.
Everything is reversible including citizenship. No one in their right minds wants this scum breathing the same air as the rest of us.
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In principle I do agree with this,however not from UKIP.
I found a lot of their launch of the manifesto today mostly unsavoury.

It came across intolerant and division creating as with a look UKIPs policies.
It is part of an answer but leaves still many questions as to the best Road to go down.

Really all political Parties need to get together on this and come up with a universally agreed plan,no single Party only has the likely answer and for sure UKIP hasn't.

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It is the law that needs changing, making it easy for the scum to understand, you kill and maim people in Britain you get deported, along with your family.
Better still bring back the death penalty for treasonal murdering scum.
Break the law, face the consequences.

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If they are leaving his country and it's to join ISIS they should never be allowed back under any circumstances. Even if they get out there and 'change their minds' they shouldn't be allowed back. The lunatics just saying they aren't part of it isn't good enough. It should be 'a 'you've made your bed, now lie in it' kinda thing.
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If they are leaving his country and it's to join ISIS they should never be allowed back under any circumstances. Even if they get out there and 'change their minds' they shouldn't be allowed back. The lunatics just saying they aren't part of it isn't good enough. It should be 'a 'you've made your bed, now lie in it' kinda thing.
Agreed. They can't have their cake and eat it.
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