[Denver]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Head Coffee maker

Stop trying to pass your job on

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Livia

When I take over the country, Glenn, I am making you my Minister for Justice.

you got my vote....ps keep larry the cat at number 10 as head mouser

[RichardG]

i will never vote for ukip

but this is a policy that every party should be adopting

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Adam.

What is my job?

I'm certain I have a suitable miche for you, Adam. Haven't quite worked out what it would be... Minister for cool?

[Shaun]

Originally Posted by RichardG

i will never vote for ukip

but this is a policy that every party should be adopting

Agreed.

Any UK citizenship should be given up the minute someone flies out to join them.

[Livia]

To be honest, I'm always torn on this question. The people who go out there thinking they're going to be waging some honourable holy war and get there to witness rape, murder, torture anbd other unspeakable carnage... I think it will be a wake up call for some young people who have lived the soft life in the UK. If those people were accepted back on condition, I think they could be instrumental in dissuading other young people from becoming radicalised. It's like drug addicts counselling other drug addicts; they're listened to because those being counselled know they have been there themselves. Obviously it would mean a massive amount of debriefing and keeping a close eye on them, probably forever... but if they could help stop young people making their way to join IS, I think it could be worth a try.

[Denver]

But you can never trust their words

[the truth]

It surely depends on what they have done, if they are dangerous we need them off the streets pronto

[Mystic Mock]

1. How do they plan on implementing that? It's very hard to get rid of someone who's legally in the country.

2. The last time UKIP made promises it turned out to be complete and utter lies.

Basically if you lean towards the right go towards the Tories over UKIP.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Livia

It's a complicated issue. There have been lots of people who have gone to Syria to fight with IS and then return to the UK once they find out the reality of that decision. If they hold a British passport they have to be allowed to return. Ideally, they should be rounded up and incarcerated immediately, but these people are usually respresented pro bono by Human Rights lawyers and other "conecerned parties". It's aminefield with people on both sides thinking they're right. Same old, really...

I wonder how these Human Rights lawyers would react if it was a close member of their family murdered by these creatures who don't act like human beings and are not worthy of the title.

I have no time for these stupid people full of their own self-importance thinking they have the right to give these animals the opportunity to go on killing people.

Shame on them and their warped sense of justice.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

1. How do they plan on implementing that? It's very hard to get rid of someone who's legally in the country.

2. The last time UKIP made promises it turned out to be complete and utter lies.

Basically if you lean towards the right go towards the Tories over UKIP.

Everything is reversible including citizenship. No one in their right minds wants this scum breathing the same air as the rest of us.

[joeysteele]

In principle I do agree with this,however not from UKIP.
I found a lot of their launch of the manifesto today mostly unsavoury.

It came across intolerant and division creating as with a look UKIPs policies.
It is part of an answer but leaves still many questions as to the best Road to go down.

Really all political Parties need to get together on this and come up with a universally agreed plan,no single Party only has the likely answer and for sure UKIP hasn't.

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

I wonder how these Human Rights lawyers would react if it was a close member of their family murdered by these creatures who don't act like human beings and are not worthy of the title.

I have no time for these stupid people full of their own self-importance thinking they have the right to give these animals the opportunity to go on killing people.

Shame on them and their warped sense of justice.

Should any lawyer prevent a clients from having a fair trial ?
Lawyers are officers of the court. They can't lie on their clients behalf. They can't give false testimony without being a party to their perjury and they can't refuse to represent someone because they believe they are guilty.

Lets not start blaming lawyers because to do so, is to prevent fair trial. We live in the West not the middle east.

[smudgie]

It is the law that needs changing, making it easy for the scum to understand, you kill and maim people in Britain you get deported, along with your family.
Better still bring back the death penalty for treasonal murdering scum.
Break the law, face the consequences.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by smudgie

I would say incinerated rather than incarcerated, save the taxpayers the bother of paying to look after them.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

Should any lawyer prevent a clients from having a fair trial ?
Lawyers are officers of the court. They can't lie on their clients behalf. They can't give false testimony without being a party to their perjury and they can't refuse to represent someone because they believe they are guilty.

Lets not start blaming lawyers because to do so, is to prevent fair trial. We live in the West not the middle east.

Not for much longer - we are handing it over piece by piece.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Livia

To be honest, I'm always torn on this question. The people who go out there thinking they're going to be waging some honourable holy war and get there to witness rape, murder, torture anbd other unspeakable carnage... I think it will be a wake up call for some young people who have lived the soft life in the UK. If those people were accepted back on condition, I think they could be instrumental in dissuading other young people from becoming radicalised. It's like drug addicts counselling other drug addicts; they're listened to because those being counselled know they have been there themselves. Obviously it would mean a massive amount of debriefing and keeping a close eye on them, probably forever... but if they could help stop young people making their way to join IS, I think it could be worth a try.

Nice to see you've come round to my way of thinking finally.

http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/foru...isation&page=3

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[Vladimir]

Originally Posted by Livia

If those people were accepted back on condition, I think they could be instrumental in dissuading other young people from becoming radicalised.

Yeah good point! Revealing their stories in the media about their unfortunate time in Syria or elsewhere would discourage others from going there. Also, 'the returnees' are constantly monitored by the police and rarely pose a big threat.

[Glenn.]

If they are leaving his country and it's to join ISIS they should never be allowed back under any circumstances. Even if they get out there and 'change their minds' they shouldn't be allowed back. The lunatics just saying they aren't part of it isn't good enough. It should be 'a 'you've made your bed, now lie in it' kinda thing.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

If they are leaving his country and it's to join ISIS they should never be allowed back under any circumstances. Even if they get out there and 'change their minds' they shouldn't be allowed back. The lunatics just saying they aren't part of it isn't good enough. It should be 'a 'you've made your bed, now lie in it' kinda thing.

Agreed. They can't have their cake and eat it.