[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Withano

What do you mean nope lol? You read at least 1 article about him a day, instead of ignoring them. Considering being most people don't post every single thing they read, I'm guessing you read a hell of a lot more than one a day. That's bordering on obsession! It's not an insult. We all have topics of interests, Corbyn is clearly yours.
I agree though, you could make a single anti-Corbyn thread and make tibb and yourself less one dimensional looking. Something tells me you want the reaction, and not the debate though.

Maybe brillo likes to read and educate herself and what its to do with you how many times she reads stuff ? If she doesn't like Corbyn she doesn't have to ,but she can certainly comment and give her opinions on the subject she is passionate about,although it's mostly wasted on here.This tit for tat thing is so childish,loads of people hate TM are we crying about it ? NO.

[Withano]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Maybe brillo likes to read and educate herself and what its to do with you how many times she reads stuff ? If she doesn't like Corbyn she doesn't have to ,but she can certainly comment and give her opinions on the subject she is passionate about,although it's mostly wasted on here.This tit for tat thing is so childish,loads of people hate TM are we crying about it ? NO.

Of course thats why - she likes to educate herself on it (albeit, through biased sources) - Corbyn is her topic of interest, clearly, and she reads because shes interested in it, thats absolutely fine, I applaud that actually. We all have topics of interest, its just nobody else feels the need to make 7 threads a week on it.

I personally wouldnt make 7 threads a week on my fave subject because it seems a bit spammy, and it would obviously irritate others on the forum... and I think the reactions are a reflection of that and not 'childish tit for tat' like youre (rudely) suggesting...

I'm not sure why other members don't make 7 threads a week on their favourite topic, its not a question ive ever asked myself.. its a pretty interesting qu though, why arent you doing that?

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Maybe brillo likes to read and educate herself and what its to do with you how many times she reads stuff ? If she doesn't like Corbyn she doesn't have to ,but she can certainly comment and give her opinions on the subject she is passionate about,although it's mostly wasted on here.This tit for tat thing is so childish,loads of people hate TM are we crying about it ? NO.

It makes me laugh how some Non-Corbyn supporters get accused by some Corbyn supporters of being 'obsessed' or of feeling 'threatened' by him for regularly drawing attention to any faults, weaknesses or innacuracies, by posting articles about these issues - when the very fact they are so bothered about it is the biggest tell-tale sign of all that they are the ones that feel threatened by it and want such articles 'hushed-up'.

Some of course may pose a bigger threat than others but I generally try to post from reasonable/good sources.

As you rightly say Kaz those behind the Conservatives and May are not getting all worked-up about anti-May threads, some of which have been quite nasty. It is ridiculous.

[DemolitionRed]

This is one thing I'm going to side with Brillo about. I don't believe increasing the minimum wage is going to greatly benefit low paid earners because it will very likely create unemployment.

Most poor people are living on one to one and a half minimum wage salaries. When that minimum wage rises, so do the costs of products we buy... they have to. The people who will really benefit from this are the middle earners (a partner who is earning above the minimum wage and the second earner who works on a minimum wage but doesn't really have to work if they don't want to).

One thing Blair did was bring in tax credit for low earners and encourage 'in work benefits' and I believe this greatly helped bottom end earners without threatening jobs. Unfortunately the Tories have been cutting these benefits with zest and this is having a detrimental affect on the working poor. Corbyn should be re-instating these wage top-ups in my opinion, instead of increasing the minimum wage.

Edited to say: Rising the minimum wage could hurt the people we most want to help.

[DemolitionRed]

Like TS suggested, we really do need to have a sticky for all things May and all things Corbyn.

[DemolitionRed]

I thought Corbyn was taking away wage restrictions in the 21-24 year old age bracket. I haven't read anything about 16-21 year olds?

We need to also keep in mind that Osborne pledged an increase to Ł9 by 2020.

[Withano]

Everyone is obsessed by their favourite topic...

[DemolitionRed]

Just looked at the Labour Manifesto and here is a direct copy...A new living wage for all
Labour says it will raise the minimum wage to the level of the “Living Wage (expected to be at least Ł10 per hour by 2020)”. This would apply to all workers aged 18 or over.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

Just looked at the Labour Manifesto and here is a direct copy...A new living wage for all
Labour says it will raise the minimum wage to the level of the “Living Wage (expected to be at least Ł10 per hour by 2020)”. This would apply to all workers aged 18 or over.

I believe he has now said he wants to include 16 year-olds in that. Besides if if applied at 18 that is still pretty young from an employers' perspective with not many 18 year-olds having many skills or work experience and so the same issues such as preferring older more skilled workers is still likely to apply.

[user104658]

I think the question of raising minimum wage and the question of wage discrepancy by age is totally different, though. Yes there is a huge economic question mark over minimum wage increases and I agree with DR that tax credits are actually a better solution than endless wage increases that only serve to drive up prices and reduce employment levels.

However in my opinion nothing - absolutely NOTHING - can justify paying 18-to-25 year olds less than over 25's doing the same job. Under 18's, for so long as full time education is mandatory until 18, is more open to debate but once someone legally reaches adulthood - 18 - they should be paid exactly the same as anyone else to do the job that they are hired to do. The minimum wage, whatever it is set at, should apply to everyone aged 18 or over equally.

The majority of large companies already do anyway to be honest. I know mine doesn't pay the under-25s less than over-25s in the cashier role (about 30p above minimum wage I believe).

[Jack_]

I'm beginning to think you have a crush on Jeremy Corbyn

In all seriousness though, I agree with the idea of an anti-Corbyn thread for all these articles, a bit like that Katie Price one Omah had where it was just him posting to himself for like three years

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Jack_

I'm beginning to think you have a crush on Jeremy Corbyn

In all seriousness though, I agree with the idea of an anti-Corbyn thread for all these articles, a bit like that Katie Price one Omah had where it was just him posting to himself for like three years

There you go with the thinly veiled attempts to either shut me up or undermine my opinions. Pretty tacky really and hardly worthy of someone who sees himself as an intellect.

Am I supposed to be worried that people might think I fancy Corbyn. If I were into old men , Corbyn wouldn't be one of them. Who would even think that other than someone who finds him attractive themselves.

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

There you go with the thinly veiled attempts to either shut me up or undermine my opinions. Pretty tacky really and hardly worthy of someone who sees himself as an intellect.

Am I supposed to be worried that people might think I fancy Corbyn. If I were into old men , Corbyn wouldn't be one of them. Who would even think that other than someone who finds him attractive themselves.

It's called a joke, but Santa Corbyn is a bit of a DILF I'll give you that

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Jack_

It's called a joke, but Santa Corbyn is a bit of a DILF I'll give you that

Too old, too left and too half asleep for my tastes. I like someone with more oomph.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

Too old, too left and too half asleep for my tastes. I like someone with more oomph.

Well May looks half dead so don't expect any oomph from that corpse.

[Tom4784]

Can you just start a 'I hate Jeremy Corbyn thread' and keep all the articles to that? Most of these articles aren't really worthy of their own thread.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Can you just start a 'I hate Jeremy Corbyn thread' and keep all the articles to that? Most of these articles aren't really worthy of their own thread.

You would say that wouldn't you. Hardly unbiased!

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

You would say that wouldn't you. Hardly unbiased!

I'd say the same to anyone that flooded SD with the same threads about May, thanks for the hypocritical personal attacks though, much appreciated.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

I'd say the same to anyone that flooded SD with the same threads about May, thanks for the hypocritical personal attacks though, much appreciated.

How was that a personal attack? It seems to me you are either being very over-sensitive about my posts or trying to get me to say something I can be banned for.

My posts to you are no different than to anyone else. If you can prove they are - be my guest. Fed up with you now.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

How was that a personal attack? It seems to me you are either being very over-sensitive about my posts or trying to get me to say something I can be banned for.

My posts to you are no different than to anyone else. If you can prove they are - be my guest. Fed up with you now.

If someone said the things you say to other people then you'd freak out over it, you say other people are sensitive but you lose your **** over the tiniest thing, again this is an example of you projecting your flaws onto other people.

[DemolitionRed]

If I was to meet any Labour economists, the first question I would be asking them is, how can you predict extra productivity by 2020 if you're not in government until then?

We know that when money gets spent in the real economy, it drives economic growth. If the demand is there, we maximize productivity and our economy expands. The situation we are presently in however, is, we are sitting on low productivity because the Tory government are ideologically opposed to human capital and technology.

Its going to take Labour fiscal policies a number of years to turn our stagnant economy around. If they don't get in until 2020 and commit to this promise, they will be lifting wages on low productivity and that can only mean one thing... inflation.

I understand enough about macroeconomics to get what Labour economists are trying to achieve (I'm not talking about the minimum wage) and the forecasts look positive and very possible, I wouldn't be voting for them otherwise, but I don't understand what's going on here with the minimum wage.

[Brillopad]

https://www.rt.com/uk/393756-rupert-...ackney-abused/

What a grade A plonker.

[Greg!]

The exact same arguments were made against the introduction of the minimum wage which turned out to be untrue. Lots of businesses just want to pay their employees as little as possible.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Greg!

The exact same arguments were made against the introduction of the minimum wage which turned out to be untrue. Lots of businesses just want to pay their employees as little as possible.

True.

[the truth]

he's a false prophet and by far the most dangerous man 8n Britain. ...he will bankrupt us destroy jobs and ambition.he wants us to be me cuba