[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

I don't see much hate of him on here.

There is no hate...unfortunately when people see negative in him they are seen as hating on him.
I think he has as many bad points as he has good...he has been bitchy and gossiped. He has stirred up the emotions of his friends knowing full well they would react then stands and watches the drama unfold...something he has admitted he likes doing...and not once has he stood up for his friends in front of others.
On the other hand he isn't a bad guy...he isn't loud and in your face and he isn't your typical BB contestant and I have enjoyed discussing him because I have judged him as a housemate and not someone from here.
We are all friends on here aren't we?....just because we have different opinions on housemates doesn't make us enemies. If Raph comes back on here..because he most likely will I would like to think he will treat me indifferently just because I and others have exposed negative points against so many of the positive ones on here. No one is perfect let's be honest.
Raph hasn't done anymore than Charlotte,Kieron,or Tom...they have all been low key and done very little.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

There is no hate...unfortunately when people see negative in him they are seen as hating on him.
I think he has as many bad points as he has good...he has been bitchy and gossiped. He has stirred up the emotions of his friends knowing full well they would react then stands and watches the drama unfold...something he has admitted he likes doing...and not once has he stood up for his friends in front of others.
On the other hand he isn't a bad guy...he isn't loud and in your face and he isn't your typical BB contestant and I have enjoyed discussing him because I have judged him as a housemate and not someone from here.
We are all friends on here aren't we?....just because we have different opinions on housemates doesn't make us enemies. If Raph comes back on here..because he most likely will I would like to think he will treat me indifferently just because I and others have exposed negative points against so many of the positive ones on here. No one is perfect let's be honest.
Raph hasn't done anymore than Charlotte,Kieron,or Tom...they have all been low key and done very little.

This is what I dislike the most about him, I hate back stabbing and sneakiness ,I prefer someone to say what they have to say face to face,not go behind backs to load the gun for someone else to fire it ,and he's lied often when he's told tales behind backs, then goes into his "Firing squad" mode with his hand over one eye,he's a nasty little man ,I too am judging him on him as a hm8 because I dont remember him from here ...... 1 Thing that stands out to me is him going in the diary room playing hell about Lotan calling women bitches, the following day someone posted on here Raph calling women bitches in several posts.. THIS is one of the things that make him the fake he is

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by Withano

I think hes been a good addition to the house, but I've always been a fan of diversity. The rest of the house come across, for the most part, as idiots and Raph does not. The c5 era loves a good z-lister so its good to see someone like Raph. Charlottes been my favourite clique member most the way through it for a similar reason.
I think he comes across loyal, and a hell of a lot more genuine than the majority of them, its cool that hes not relying on dramatics, arguments, or showmances, and he has great taste in friends, because lets be real - the exiles are just better people. He cares about the show and his place in it.
(I'm not going to but) if I, or actually, all of TiBB, created lists as to why we dislike the housemates, I'd imagine his list would be the shortest. Aside from his VT, which was genuinely terrible, he hasnt really stepped a foot out of line.
Most of his hate comes from the members who regularly go against popular opinion, and his hate is a lot heavier on tibb than it is any other social platform, which speaks volumes...

great post

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Withano

I think hes been a good addition to the house, but I've always been a fan of diversity. The rest of the house come across, for the most part, as idiots and Raph does not. The c5 era loves a good z-lister so its good to see someone like Raph. Charlottes been my favourite clique member most the way through it for a similar reason.
I think he comes across loyal, and a hell of a lot more genuine than the majority of them, its cool that hes not relying on dramatics, arguments, or showmances, and he has great taste in friends, because lets be real - the exiles are just better people. He cares about the show and his place in it.
(I'm not going to but) if I, or actually, all of TiBB, created lists as to why we dislike the housemates, I'd imagine his list would be the shortest. Aside from his VT, which was genuinely terrible, he hasnt really stepped a foot out of line.
Most of his hate comes from the members who regularly go against popular opinion, and his hate is a lot heavier on tibb than it is any other social platform, which speaks volumes...

Yes ,lets be real,he only has 'great taste' in mates because they are your faves too,so we wont get a true answer to that as none of us really know that.people will talk about him here more as he is a member.

[Withano]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Yes ,lets be real,he only has 'great taste' in mates because they are your faves too,so we wont get a true answer to that as none of us really know that.people will talk about him here more as he is a member.

Well... yeh... do you really think he'd have this much fans if he befriended Lotan and Kayleigh instead of the exiles?

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Withano

Well... yeh... do you really think he'd have this much fans if he befriended Lotan and Kayleigh instead of the exiles?

Who knows maybe,you talk as though they had no fan base ,they did,whoever Raph had befriended would have been ok on here.

[Withano]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Who knows maybe,you talk as though they had no fan base ,they did,whoever Raph had befriended would have been ok on here.

Well not youre just being silly. Thought you said your OP wasnt a baiting post.
Asking why people like him and then say the equivalent to 'people would have liked him regardless'. Super baity.

[Beso]

One of the most boring and non descript housemates since gos.

[Vanessa]

I think Raph is doing very well in there. He's making friends and he's being himself. So what if he's a game player? It's a game show, so they're all game players really.
From what I head the general public has a good impression of him. They se him as a genuine guy. This is the only place I've seen where some are trying to bring him down with any means possible and that is sad.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

I think Raph is doing very well in there. He's making friends and he's being himself. So what if he's a game player? It's a game show, so they're all game players really.
From what I head the general public has a good impression of him. They se him as a genuine guy. This is the only place I've seen where some are trying to bring him down with any means possible and that is sad.

He is doing well, but I remember supporting Sam on here and he was like Raph in certain ways but he got slated,people get too defensive all the time ,it was a question and a valid one.Imo Raph is on a par with keiran,Charlotte and Tom as a housemate so why are they slated and he is not? I like all those btw including Raph.

[Withano]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

He is doing well, but I remember supporting Sam on here and he was like Raph in certain ways but he got slated,people get too defensive all the time ,it was a question and a valid one.Imo Raph is on a par with keiran,Charlotte and Tom as a housemate so why are they slated and he is not? I like all those btw including Raph.

I feel like youre judging them by levels of airtime, and thats not really how people watch the show? All five of their personalities are starkly different to one another. I liked Sam, he was a nice lad, I dont like Tom, he is a prick - the only thing thats similar was the proportion of airtime they had so its an odd parallel to make imo.

[Paula D]

Yeah, I'm kind of disappointed tbh, he hasn't lived up to his game at all.

I don't want him to win but I think he deserves to be in the final alright just because of his enthusiasm.

I think he has great strength and patience as well to be fair because he's not into the **** talk about sex etc. that the others do all the time so he must get fairly bored looking for something to do. I'd have cracked and run out the door by now if I was in there.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Paula D

Yeah, I'm kind of disappointed tbh, he hasn't lived up to his game at all.

I don't want him to win but I think he deserves to be in the final alright just because of his enthusiasm.

I think he has great strength and patience as well to be fair because he's not into the **** talk about sex etc. that the others do all the time so he must get fairly bored looking for something to do. I'd have cracked and run out the door by now if I was in there.

The best thing about him is that he hates conflict. He's just very a very normal, sweet guy.

[Paula D]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

The best thing about him is that he hates conflict. He's just very a very normal, sweet guy.

I dislike that about him actually. People who avoid conflict at all costs wreck my head because they end up passive aggressive.

He let Joe treat him like **** at times and then played the victim.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Paula D

I dislike that about him actually. People who avoid conflict at all costs wreck my head because they end up passive aggressive.

He let Joe treat him like **** at times and then played the victim.

Spot on avoid arguments, go away and backstab then play the victim

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Paula D

I dislike that about him actually. People who avoid conflict at all costs wreck my head because they end up passive aggressive.

He let Joe treat him like **** at times and then played the victim.

He actually answered him back and gave as good as he got. And no he's not passive aggressive, that was Joe.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

The best thing about him is that he hates conflict. He's just very a very normal, sweet guy.

I wouldn't say this is true. I would say he hates himself being involved in conflict. However he seems to want conflict between others as he does (or did until the past week or so) sit winding people up knowing they will kick off, then sits back watching

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

I wouldn't say this is true. I would say he hates himself being involved in conflict. However he seems to want conflict between others as he does (or did until the past week or so) suit win ding people up knowing they will kick off, then sits back watching

Exactly as I said ....He loads the gun for others to fire, while he slithers away

[Kazanne]

Can we get back on topic of what makes Raph a great housemate.

[Nicky91]

Raph a great person yes , but a great housemate

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

Raph a great person yes , but a great housemate

Nicky

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Nicky

i was just being honest, without being nasty


like the same about Charlotte, a lovely real genuine person, but as a housemate she also ain't perfect, due to lack of camera experience i think

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

Raph a great person yes , but a great housemate

I think he's a good Housemate. Much better than many in there. I don't think Charlotte is a great housemate, but again it's just my opinion. We all like different things in a housemate. I much prefer a quieter one to a loudmouth.

[Littlegreen]

I actually like Charlotte and don't find her that boring. Both she and Raph have been the worst victims of the producers edit this year. Neither have had major beef and neither have got into a showmance.

It is ironic and hilarious those that were/are constantly making hate threads aimed at Raph are now labeling him "boring"!!! HA what would they have ranted about the last 5 weeks without him?!

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Littlegreen

I actually like Charlotte and don't find her that boring. Both she and Raph have been the worst victims of the producers edit this year. Neither have had major beef and neither have got into a showmance.

It is ironic and hilarious those that were/are constantly making hate threads aimed at Raph are now labeling him "boring"!!! HA what would they have ranted about the last 5 weeks without him?!

Who has made hate threads I asked what he had done that has stood out from the likes of Charlotte,Keiran,Tom etc ? no hate just a question