[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Could that not be said to be a made up word that is used when a specific group is criticised?

Don't want to appear hypocritical do you?

Well as many Muslims seem to be antisemetic it's a strange word to try to make comparisons with.

Whatever, at least it isn't a word trying to hide behind a 'clinical' definition to give it more clout. It's pretentious nonsence.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

Well as many Muslims seem to be antisemetic it's a strange word to try to make comparisons with.

Whatever, at least it isn't a word trying to hide behind a 'clinical' definition to give it more clout. It's pretentious nonsence.

All words have a clinical definition, that's why there are dictionaries.

Again you are entirely fixating on Muslims...My point is if there is a word that defines the maligning of one group why then is it so unreasonable to have a word equal in it's definition for another.

It appears hypocritical

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

Well as many Muslims seem to be antisemetic it's a strange word to try to make comparisons with.

Whatever, at least it isn't a word trying to hide behind a 'clinical' definition to give it more clout. It's pretentious nonsence.

Pick your battles - it's a "made up word" so who cares. The phobia isn't added to the end to make it sound clinical, it's just a word.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

Whatever, at least it isn't a word trying to hide behind a 'clinical' definition to give it more clout. It's pretentious nonsence.

I agree, we should stop calling it Islamophobia and start calling it what it is.

Racism.

But you're not a big fan of that one either, are you Brillo? In fact, it seems like you would like to "ban" any "negative sounding" word from being used to describe people who like to spout hatred about Muslims. I wonder why that is?

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by JTM45

There are dubious practices amongst the vast majority of religions yet you constantly only drone on about those attributed to the Muslim religion. Far more people in the UK have suffered at the hands of the Catholic religion.

In the past, sure. It's a bit of a moot point as there aren't any post defending Catholicism, nor any threads about it.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

In the past, sure. It's a bit of a moot point as there aren't any post defending Catholicism, nor any threads about it.

In the past?... :/

It isn't a 'moot' point it is entirely comparable, is it perhaps not considered repressive, oppressive and suppressive enough due to the fact it happens to be a Christian religion?

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

In the past?... :/

It isn't a 'moot' point it is entirely comparable, is it perhaps not considered repressive, oppressive and suppressive enough due to the fact it happens to be a Christian religion?

Feel free to start a thread. Maybe you could mention how the culture surrounding the religion drives people to take their daughter abroad for FGM or child marriage. Ohwait, wrong religion.

[Marsh.]

Well, I doubt any bigot purposely sees themselves as such and believes absolutely their thoughts to be rational. That doesn't suddenly mean they're not racist or bigoted, because they personally don't believe they are.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Well, I doubt any bigot purposely sees themselves as such and believes absolutely their thoughts to be rational. That doesn't suddenly mean they're not racist or bigoted, because they personally don't believe they are.

Neither does it mean they are based on someone else's viewpoint. I do believe however that some of those that do accuse others of being so do so with fore-thought.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

Neither does it mean they are based on someone else's viewpoint. I do believe however that some of those that do accuse others of being so do so with fore-thought.

Well, no. Racism, sexism, ageism, any kind of discrimination is factual. There's no viewpoint about it.

If you're discriminating against someone because of a particular attribute then that is bigoted, no two ways about it.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Well, no. Racism, sexism, ageism, any kind of discrimination is factual. There's no viewpoint about it.

If you're discriminating against someone because of a particular attribute then that is bigoted, no two ways about it.

You miss the point- some see isms round every corner because they misinterpret or see what they want to. Interpretation is not the same as fact.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

You miss the point- some see isms round every corner because they misinterpret or see what they want to. Interpretation is not the same as fact.

I'm not missing the point.

Discrimination is not a misinterpretation. It either happens or it doesn't.

[Underscore]

Better than Daily Fail one-sided racist, sexist and homophobic drivel.

[Kizzy]

I think it's important not to lose sight of the differential between 'opinion' pieces and 'factual' ones ( as in there is written or statistical evidence provided)