[AnnieK]

Peace and goodwill to ALL men

[bots]

Lets look at it from another angle, would Tesco's feature a Christian family in an advert for a Muslim festival? I don't think so. People may well celebrate Christmas for all the wrong reasons, but it is still a Christian festival, so I can see it rubbing some people the wrong way. Personally, I couldn't give a crap, the whole thing is just commercialised nonsense, but I do think people have a right to be offended by it

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

Lets look at it from another angle, would Tesco's feature a Christian family in an advert for a Muslim festival? I don't think so. People may well celebrate Christmas for all the wrong reasons, but it is still a Christian festival, so I can see it rubbing some people the wrong way. Personally, I couldn't give a crap, the whole thing is just commercialised nonsense, but I do think people have a right to be offended by it

Well said. Sick of the constant double standards.

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

Lets look at it from another angle, would Tesco's feature a Christian family in an advert for a Muslim festival? I don't think so. People may well celebrate Christmas for all the wrong reasons, but it is still a Christian festival, so I can see it rubbing some people the wrong way. Personally, I couldn't give a crap, the whole thing is just commercialised nonsense, but I do think people have a right to be offended by it

I think Christians are generally offended about their celebration being adopted by Pagans and atheists. At least Muslims believe in Jesus.

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

Lets look at it from another angle, would Tesco's feature a Christian family in an advert for a Muslim festival? I don't think so. People may well celebrate Christmas for all the wrong reasons, but it is still a Christian festival, so I can see it rubbing some people the wrong way. Personally, I couldn't give a crap, the whole thing is just commercialised nonsense, but I do think people have a right to be offended by it

Sighs... obviously not because Christians don't believe in Muhammad!

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

Lets look at it from another angle, would Tesco's feature a Christian family in an advert for a Muslim festival? I don't think so. People may well celebrate Christmas for all the wrong reasons, but it is still a Christian festival, so I can see it rubbing some people the wrong way. Personally, I couldn't give a crap, the whole thing is just commercialised nonsense, but I do think people have a right to be offended by it

Would Tesco even advertise with a Muslim festival theme? No.

Christmas is the only commercial one in that respect.

It's got bugger all to do with religion and everything to do with retail.

[DemolitionRed]

But Muslims do believe in the birth of Christ. Jesus is mentioned repeatedly in the Quran as a great prophet and messenger of God. In fact, Muslims, through the Hadiths, follow Jesus back through lineage to his great ancestors, which makes them firm believers in Jesus. Like Christians, Muslims preach that Jesus was without sin. The birthplace and birth dates of Jesus is different in the Quran to what it is in the bible but Muslims still recognize the birth of Christ as the birth of a great prophet.

The reason Muslims don't normally celebrate Christmas is because they've been raised to believe that Christmas day was modeled after Saturnalia, a Roman Pagan holiday honoring the deity Saturn that was later adopted by Christians. Muslims, like Pagans, believe Christ was born in July.

In Muslim countries, they (unless you're a Christian) don't celebrate Christmas day but in Europe, Christmas is a national holiday that's celebrated by Pagans, Christians, Atheists, and some Muslims.

[lostalex]

Xmas ads are basically like the Superbowl for the UK. It always makes me laugh when Brits talk shhh-it about America for the fuss about Super Bowl ads, but it's literally the same for Christmas ads in the UK, except instead of looking for something clever and funny, y'all just look for something that makes you feel any kind of emotion. Brits are desperate for something emotional.

[T*]

Originally Posted by lostalex

Xmas ads are basically like the Superbowl for the UK. It always makes me laugh when Brits talk shhh-it about America for the fuss about Super Bowl ads, but it's literally the same for Christmas ads in the UK, except instead of looking for something clever and funny, y'all just look for something that makes you feel any kind of emotion. Brits are desperate for something emotional.

‘Those silly Americans with those Super Bowl ads!’ - no one ever
a reach and a half, I love the super bowl ads but then again I work quite close to marketing, everyone else literally doesn’t care about them

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by lostalex

Xmas ads are basically like the Superbowl for the UK. It always makes me laugh when Brits talk shhh-it about America for the fuss about Super Bowl ads, but it's literally the same for Christmas ads in the UK, except instead of looking for something clever and funny, y'all just look for something that makes you feel any kind of emotion. Brits are desperate for something emotional.

What a load of rubbish.

[DemolitionRed]

This is a really interesting article about the 25th December https://www.islamicity.org/6407/jesu...and-christmas/

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

This is a really interesting article about the 25th December https://www.islamicity.org/6407/jesu...and-christmas/

I don't see how that's relevant. Either you accept Jesus as God or not. That's the basis of the Christian religion, that Jesus was God. Kind of having reverence for him as a prophet (they also worship a pedophile prophet) is not the same thing at all.

Spoiler:

Spoiler:

There is no God. It's all a lie for power and money. and unfortunately it's working.

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by lostalex

I don't see how that's relevant. Either you accept Jesus as God or not. That's the basis of the Christian religion, that Jesus was God. Kind of having reverence for him as a prophet (they also worship a pedophile prophet) is not the same thing at all.

Spoiler:

Spoiler:

There is no God

Its relevant because it explains different reasons why the 25th December is celebrated and why the 25th December is not just a Christian festival.

edited to add: most Christian faiths don't think Jesus is God. They believe Jesus was the son of God and appointed by God.

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

Its relevant because it explains different reasons why the 25th December is celebrated and why the 25th December is not just a Christian festival.

edited to add: most Christian faiths don't think Jesus is God. They believe Jesus was the son of God and appointed by God.

Well i'm a catholic and what you just said is blasphemous. please stop offending me now. (j/k sort of, i'm an atheist now) seriously though your protestant ways of devaluing Jesus as the living embodiment of God is offensive. he was not a symbol of God, he was actually God on earth. That is the basis of Christianity. I don't know what Christian church you went to that said that Jesus was not God. It's pretty much the whole point of the religion, no matter what branch, Jesus was God coming to earth and dying for the sins of humanity. If Jesus wasn't God then he wasn't the savior.

once again Spoiler:

Spoiler:

There is no God, it's all a lie.

[bots]

Originally Posted by lostalex

Well i'm a catholic and what you just said is blasphemous. please stop offending me now. (j/k sort of, i'm an atheist now) seriously though your protestant ways of devaluing Jesus as the living embodiment of God is offensive. he was not a symbol of God, he was actually God on earth. That is the basis of Christianity. I don't know what Christian church you went to that said that Jesus was not God. It's pretty much the whole point of the religion, no matter what branch, Jesus was God coming to earth and dying for the sins of humanity. If Jesus wasn't God then he wasn't the savior.

once again Spoiler:

Spoiler:

There is no God, it's all a lie.

i think you need to go back and re-read your bible. Jesus was the Son of God.

[Cal.]

Can Christians stop pretending it's their holiday? It's MY holiday to stuff as many pigs in blankets down my big fat gob as I can.

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Cal.

Can Christians stop pretending it's their holiday? It's MY holiday to stuff as many pigs in blankets down my big fat gob as I can.

who's trying to stop you?

so insensitive to muslims. Keep it halal, Asshole!

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by Cal.

Can Christians stop pretending it's their holiday? It's MY holiday to stuff as many pigs in blankets down my big fat gob as I can.

Hehe... it was pigs in blankets that broke my vegetarianism. we were at my parents for Xmas. I'd wandered into the kitchen and discovered a dozen pigs in blankets and couldn't resist eating half of them. Everyone but me got the blame because I was the only vegetarian

[Greg!]

Christians stole crimbo off the pagans anyway so why are they raging.

[Crimson Dynamo]

what is annoying is that its just so pathetic virtue signalling to get likes (just like M&S and JL)

as TS said its cynical and treats its audience like knobs

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

what is annoying is that its just so pathetic virtue signalling to get likes (just like M&S and JL)

as TS said its cynical and treats its audience like knobs

It’s big brother trying to tell us all how to think. We are indeed being treated like children by the advertising giants.

I mean, really, advertising giants suddenly getting alll PC and ‘moral’ - pull the other one. It’s pandering to PC in the belief that is where the money is at the moment. Just don’t expect me to buy your products- patronising, hypocritical knobs.

[Jake.]

Pathetic, only word which springs to mind really and it annoys me that companies even acknowledge it

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Jake.

Pathetic, only word which springs to mind really and it annoys me that companies even acknowledge it

It's acknowledged to cynically give them more publicity, are they really outraged by what Twitter trolls post, not really

[thesheriff443]

Will the advert stop me shopping at Tesco? No
Will the advert make me treat Muslims any differently? No
Will I continue to treat people the way I want to be treated? Yes

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

Will the advert stop me shopping at Tesco? No
Will the advert make me treat Muslims any differently? No
Will I continue to treat people the way I want to be treated? Yes

Will it stop me shopping at Tesco - yes cheap rubbish anyway.

Will it make me respect a religion that teaches sexism - no.

Will I continue to treat people the way I want to be treated - yes.