[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

I don't know. I don't have any control over that. I do, however, have control over not funding a drug habit.

Spoken like a true NIMBY.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Spoken like a true NIMBY.

I beg your pardon?

How does this term apply to me exactly?

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

I beg your pardon?

How does this term apply to me exactly?

I guess it was your jump from homeless person to addict and the dismissive context.

There but for the grace of god go I eh?

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

I guess it was your jump from homeless person to addict and the dismissive context.

There but for the grace of god go I eh?

I didn't make that jump. You specifically asked about "those addicted".

Not once have I suggested homeless people are all addicts and that it's their fault.

I have addicts in my family so don't dare suggest you know me at all when it comes to this subject.

But, hey, you enjoy riding that high horse. I hope you don't fall.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

I didn't make that jump. You specifically asked about "those addicted".

Not once have I suggested homeless people are all addicts and that it's their fault.

I have addicts in my family so don't dare suggest you know me at all when it comes to this subject.

But, hey, you enjoy riding that high horse. I hope you don't fall.

No horses here, I'm an addict myself Marsh.
I feel it personally when it's suggested that they would walk by addicts, but I shouldn't have said that to you perhaps, sorry.

[Maru]

The homeless peddlers advertise it as a professional trade in the jails here. Some have bragged that they can get $1,000/day in "a good spot". It's very common for them to shuffle in and out and take advantage of medical treatments available there and then going back out. It's a lifestyle for some, where they are well-networked and take advantage of all the services to continue peddling. I don't give anything to them, but if I see a church group or advocacy group on the road, then I donate directly to an organization that will get them off the streets rather than to make it a lifestyle.

I agree with passing ordinances to discourage this, that they all but pretty much stop people from giving money or running a food truck, etc. We have some land near the shopping areas here and there's a big homeless camp back there. The police know where they are, so they've been going and actively trying to get them into programs. I'm constantly having to shoo people off going to to the store, and while I wish I could just give, I know if it's easy money, it's not real help and it's going to encourage people to continue with the lifestyle decision rather than to go get real help.

I think the local areas should invest in the organizations, not rely exclusively on welfare that keeps the poverty cycle continuing. I wouldn't call it abusing welfare to use it to as a stipend to peddle... once the money is in their wallet, it's theirs to choose to spend. Welfare services doesn't follow up with trying to get their lives together, they just pay money and hope they find it in themselves back in order.

I disagree with the title though in those instances. They have no home (really), they are simply "transient"... I had two uncles (no longer living) that were like this, and they didn't want to be grounded. Some people are just like this, they don't quite fit in with normal society and like to live without extraneous structure, so it's an attractive lifestyle.

Houston man suing the city for the right to feed the homeless
http://www.fox26houston.com/news/hou...d-the-homeless

Groups push to end cash handouts to homeless in northwest Houston
http://www.chron.com/neighborhood/to...n-12229877.php

Healthcare for the Homeless
https://www.homeless-healthcare.org/

Mayor Turner reveals plan to deal with homelessness
http://abc13.com/news/mayor-reveals-...sness/1782063/

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

No horses here, I'm an addict myself Marsh.
I feel it personally when it's suggested that they would walk by addicts, but I shouldn't have said that to you perhaps, sorry.

Thanks. No problem.

[waterhog]

from what I see the new form of beggar is not desperate - you can spot a genuine homeless person if you use your eyes.

this is a lucrative business now and where as street beggars are moved on ie if it is outside a major store the new form of beggar seems to avoid this which is feeding the rabbit and I would not say the professional beggar has a addiction to drugs or alcohol - the addiction is with free money - need a bit of wham - hey suckers ?

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by waterhog

from what I see the new form of beggar is not desperate - you can spot a genuine homeless person if you use your eyes.

this is a lucrative business now and where as street beggars are moved on ie if it is outside a major store the new form of beggar seems to avoid this which is feeding the rabbit and I would not say the professional beggar has a addiction to drugs or alcohol - the addiction is with free money - need a bit of wham - hey suckers ?

I agree with both your paragraphs. Having volunteered with homeless people I believe I have a good eye for spotting the genuine ones from the professional ones.

They say that professional beggars can make up to £500 a day and the money is often used to pay for car finance and mortgages. They often sit outside restaurants looking forlorn; a good place to play on people's guilt.