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Old 12-01-2018, 11:16 PM #1
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The question is implying exactly that though. Anyone who says yes it is discriminatory is saying anyone not wanting to shag (or dating, though its clearly about sex) a transperson is bigoted. Which is clearly ridiculous unless they think that sexuality can/should be just 'got over'. Which many people do think of lesbians. Kind of glad this is being brought into the public eye a bit more as its beren all 'underground'/behind closed doors so far. The more people know about these extreme opinions, the better tbh
This is how I feel, especially what you said in the end, because it's true. It should come out in the open. I think a lot of the reasons now we are seeing conversations like these on TV is because people on both sides of the issue have gotten over their personal self-consciousness and not letting their speech be dictated by those around them.

Yes, this has put politics more into the mainstream and has made certain elements that are more divisive bubble to the surface, but we're also now seeing a silent majority/middle-ground that does speak for itself now on both sides of the issues.


Anyway, would it be considered amoral if someone who boasted watching transporn chronically declared they would never date a transperson... but without having explicitly stated something clearly bigoted, can we assume their hearts and say they are bigoted without more evidence? After all, you can have sex or do certain acts for lust, but that doesn't necessarily lead to passionate love...

If I'm honest, I think this area is where gender/sexual labels cause more confusion than help us to understand our individual motivators, because sexual trysts are a different beast than marriage I think. I feel like this is where humans can't be put into boxes, because if we're honest, relationships are a bit of a social construct and instincts/urges don't necessarily play nicely with our man-made sense of order (i.e. society).. it feels like it's applying social constructs to something that normally is about being liberated from our personal boxes (i.e. porn, fantasy play, one-night stands, etc).. no one cares if they're violating social norms when they watch porn or choose a sexual partner, actually, that's the thrill sometimes isn't it?
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Is it discriminatory to not like certain foods?

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Blah blah blah blah no
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"Shagging" is such a British word
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Is discriminatory to shop at Asda and not Tesco?
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is it discriminatory to not want to date old people, is it discriminatory to not want to date people not in your geographic region. The whole concept of it being discriminatory is a joke
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is it discriminatory to not want to date old people, is it discriminatory to not want to date people not in your geographic region. The whole concept of it being discriminatory is a joke
Good point

I can’t even believe it’s got to this stage.It’s surreal tbh
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No. It's a sexual preference.
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No if u don't want to date a transexual they don't have to that's ridiculous most men like real woman

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No.
You date whoever you fancy, gay, straight, bi, or transitional (plus any I have missed out).
You can't be accountable for who turns you on.
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Of course not. You can't tell people who to be attracted to. Or bully them into it.
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Of course it isn't. There's not much of a debate about it to be had tbh. You can't guilt trip someone into having a relationship with someone they don't want to.
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I’d consider myself an ally and advocate for the trans community, but I don’t think this question should even be up for debate. Sexual preferences should never be considered discrimination.
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I think it’s a bit of a grey area, and like I said in another thread, if I was attracted to a tear and person I’d date them, but I wouldn’t want to sleep with them if I hadn’t had the work done downstairs

I think ruling out every single trans person is slightly discriminatory, say for example
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He is pretty hot. But if he hasn't had the ops I wouldn't be interested as people who look like men and have fannys are of no interest to me. And if he had had the op done I wouldnt shag him as the constructed penises are just awful and nothing like real ones.

Either way, he probably wouldn't shag me as I am approaching middle age ( ) and he is much hotter than me. So I doubt he cares

Its rare for transpeople to pass that well though and I think most people know that so will associate trans with...'women' who look like blokes, and 'blokes' who just look like butch women. Its also a seriously low number of transpeople who have full SRS so large chances are, a transwoman will have a dick, and a transman a fanjo.

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How is 30 middle age.
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Apparently 35 is middle aged I am closer to 40 thaan I am to 20. Which is lovely
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No its not. No one is owed a relationship and sex, and there is a huge difference between denying someone their rights in the general sense to denying having a relationship with them.

This is an issue that has come up in the lgbt community as I have seen lesbians being called all things under the sun for not wanting to date transwomen and its disgusting.
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You can't help it if you might not be attracted to the person.

Transphobia or any kind of prejudice only exists when you hate them because of what they are, not because you might not be sexually attracted to them, that's my view on it anyway.
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I'm so glad these silly debates from India now end that she's been evicted .

It's not discriminatory to not date someone who's trans, people have their preference .

India finally figured out she ruined her own chances , yes you did cock it up you daft bint like a broken record .
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Dating is a discriminatary process, and someone can choose not to date another person for any reason they want - and that's okay!
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I have mentioned before about my lesbian friends being told they are bigoted for not wanting to shag people with penises. This thread shows the kinds of attitudes towards lesbiansism (and by extension, homosexuality or heterosexuality) in so many of the trans community. Its not as rare as some seem to think it is tbh. Its the natural conclusion of 'anyone is anything they identify as'
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