[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

Seriously?

I don't know but I would think it's quite a serious case ,I don't know how these things work

[GiRTh]

Maggie was talking about it on launch night so I doubt it was a banned topic.

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

Still odd that she never asked about it.

Equally though..why didn't Maggie raise the discussion in the house?....she had plenty of opportunity. No good bringing it up at her eviction interview..the opportunity has gone. Bit underhand IMO...

[GiRTh]

She talked about it on launch night.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

Equally though..why didn't Maggie raise the discussion in the house?....she had plenty of opportunity. No good bringing it up at her eviction interview..the opportunity has gone. Bit underhand IMO...

Really good point.

[Maru]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

Equally though..why didn't Maggie raise the discussion in the house?....she had plenty of opportunity. No good bringing it up at her eviction interview..the opportunity has gone. Bit underhand IMO...

She was bitter about being nominated by Ann as it was still fresh, so a bit understandable...

[jaxie]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

How could it be Anns fault I am sure if she could have done something she would

Ann retired in 2010.

[jaxie]

I know let's blame Ann for the Crucifixion and Hitler and Trump and anything we can think of between?

[Jase.]

Originally Posted by jaxie

I know let's blame Ann for the Crucifixion and Hitler and Trump and anything we can think of between?

Absolutely!

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by jaxie

I know let's blame Ann for the Crucifixion and Hitler and Trump and anything we can think of between?

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

She talked about it on launch night.

I never heard it,just a brief description of what happened

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

I never heard it,just a brief description of what happened

WHich would be talking about it.

[pontyboi]

It'S odd she didn't bring it up with Maggie I think Ann might be just avoiding the subject wether it's from guilt or imo she hates losing pride or losing face.

Her nomination of Maggie for the reasons she gave were pathetic...either Ann is in the early stages of dementia not to notice every woman was howling with laughter or she is that bad at judging people and situations which is quite scary seeing as she was a main player in parliament.

[Paula D]

Totally agree. Maggie totally slandering Ann there and could be sued.

Extremely bitter that she was evicted. Nasty.

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[Kazanne]

Maggie was just asked about jess on BBBOTS and she got onto Ann again saying Ann could have stopped what she exposed,then Rylan said Ann wasn't there to defend herself,so Maggie needs to stop,Ann could not have stopped it at all and as someone said she retired in 2010.

[Jamie89]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Well look,I am now a staunch Labour supporter however they were the govt.then
Ann was only shadow Home Secretary,who takes much notice of shadow ministers really,even if they should.

It's the Labour Home Secretary of the time who should have to give some answers to that issue.

Just as now, it should be the serving Home Secretary who gets the flack on issues as bad as that.
Not the opposition spokesmen/women.

So it wasn't Ann's responsibility to do anything about it, but could she have done something about it? Genuine question, I'm not sure about much of this tbh, and that seems to be what Maggie was getting at... she's just stated on BOTS with some certainty that Ann could have done something to stop it.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by pontyboi

It'S odd she didn't bring it up with Maggie I think Ann might be just avoiding the subject wether it's from guilt or imo she hates losing pride or losing face.

Her nomination of Maggie for the reasons she gave were pathetic...either Ann is in the early stages of dementia not to notice every woman was howling with laughter or she is that bad at judging people and situations which is quite scary seeing as she was a main player in parliament.

her nomination was weird but it was hers to make no need for Maggie to keep trying to blame Ann for something that was out of her control.

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Maggie was just asked about jess on BBBOTS and she got onto Ann again saying Ann could have stopped what she exposed,then Rylan said Ann wasn't there to defend herself,so Maggie needs to stop,Ann could not have stopped it at all and as someone said she retired in 2010.

Sounds like Maggie might be a bit bitter which IMO is totally justified considering Anns reasons for nominating her are disintegrating before our eyes

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Jamie89

So it wasn't Ann's responsibility to do anything about it, but could she have done something about it? Genuine question, I'm not sure about much of this tbh, and that seems to be what Maggie was getting at... she's just stated on BOTS with some certainty that Ann could have done something to stop it.

How could she ,she had retired ,best person to ask on here is Joey.

[pontyboi]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

Equally though..why didn't Maggie raise the discussion in the house?....she had plenty of opportunity. No good bringing it up at her eviction interview..the opportunity has gone. Bit underhand IMO...

Oh cmon would any sane person be like "Ann did you nominate me because of my participation in the Rochdale case?" ....bigger picture people.

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by Jamie89

So it wasn't Ann's responsibility to do anything about it, but could she have done something about it? Genuine question, I'm not sure about much of this tbh, and that seems to be what Maggie was getting at... she's just stated on BOTS with some certainty that Ann could have done something to stop it.

Exactly.

[Paula D]

Think about it, is every politician supposed to do something about every situation?

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[Jamie89]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

How could she ,she had retired ,best person to ask on here is Joey.

I know I'm waiting for him to answer us I don't know tbh Kaz, Girth stated that the case started in 2004 which would have been before Ann retired. And just with Maggie seeming to be so certain about it... she doesn't strike me as someone who's malicious or anything and she seems like she knows what she's talking about. It looks like it might be a situation where possibly Ann could have done something to help and didn't, but also that it wasn't actually her responsibility. But like I said I don't really know I'm just curious about it all.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Jamie89

I know I'm waiting for him to answer us I don't know tbh Kaz, someone else stated that the case started in 2004 which would have been before Ann retired. And just with Maggie seeming to be so certain about it... she doesn't strike me as someone who's malicious or anything. It looks like it might be a situation where possibly Ann could have done something to help and didn't, but also that it wasn't actually her responsibility. But like I said I don't really know I'm just curious about it all.

Yes me too but I do know Joey said she was only a shadow minister, so was not a big wig in parliament.hopefully Joey will see this,

[jaxie]

For one thing Ann retired from all cabinet office in 2001 to be a backbencher. In 2010 Ann retired completely from politics. She was never in a position where she would have had access to or been involved in the Rochdale case.

It seems quite low of Maggie to suggest she was involved in any way.