[empire]

the way he goes on about it, its like that guy from little britain, Daffyd thomas, and he goes on about being gay, well shane being gay doesn't shock people these days and he doesn't want to face the reality that he is just like everyone else, he is addicted to shocking people, and he likes to be the centure of attention, and he is now trying to pick an empty fight with ann, and what has she done to him nothing, I think ann makes a point when she said that she loves shane but not courtney, because when he is in his courtney act he starts to show his nasty side and tries to start an argument with ann, and alot of young girls fall for his act but ann is older and has seen it all before, and there is a reason why amanda confronted him because she knew what he was trying to do,

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by empire

the way he goes on about it, its like that guy from little britain, Daffyd thomas, and he goes on about being gay, well shane being gay doesn't shock people these days and he doesn't want to face the reality that he is just like everyone else, he is addicted to shocking people, and he likes to be the centure of attention, and he is now trying to pick an empty fight with ann, and what has she done to him nothing, I think ann makes a point when she said that she loves shane but not courtney, because when he is in his courtney act he starts to show his nasty side and tries to start an argument with ann, and alot of young girls fall for his act but ann is older and has seen it all before, and there is a reason why amanda confronted him because she knew what he was trying to do,

This is what Amanda is outing him about in the video in my other thread

[Jack_]

Many viewers and people on this forum could learn a lot from Shane J. He speaks the truth, no matter how often he does it.

[Lilac hills]

Originally Posted by Jack_

Many viewers and people on this forum could learn a lot from Shane J. He speaks the truth, no matter how often he does it.

Strange all I’ve seen him do is say one think to one person then say the total opposite to Andrew

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by Lilac hills

Strange all I’ve seen him do is say one think to one person then say the total opposite to Andrew

This thread is about his discussions of gender politics, LGBT rights and feminism. I don't recall him ever expressing an opinion on those issues to one person and then the total opposite to Andrew? Could you provide me with an example?

[Lilac hills]

Originally Posted by Jack_

This thread is about his discussions of gender politics, LGBT rights and feminism. I don't recall him ever expressing an opinion on those issues to one person and then the total opposite to Andrew? Could you provide me with an example?

It’s not just about his views it’s about his demeanour and his sneakiness in general

But have you not been watching the show that’s been airing for the last month? Honestly wouldn’t blame you it’s been dull af

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Jack_

This thread is about his discussions of gender politics, LGBT rights and feminism. I don't recall him ever expressing an opinion on those issues to one person and then the total opposite to Andrew? Could you provide me with an example?

EVERYONE has rights not just LGBT ,including Ann to not be a fan !!

[Cal.]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

EVERYONE has rights not just LGBT ,including Ann to not be a fan !!

'To not be a fan' ?

It's nothing you need to be a fan of or not. In fact, I don't know why you feel the need to express your opinion on it? It's not valid and NOBODY cares.

[Ant.]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

EVERYONE has rights not just LGBT ,including Ann to not be a fan !!

so you can't? lol ok then

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Jack_

Many viewers and people on this forum could learn a lot from Shane J. He speaks the truth, no matter how often he does it.

and yet his actions betray his words, he is a faker, a one trick pony

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

and yet his actions betray his words, he is a faker, a one trick pony

Do they now? Could you provide me with a few specific examples of where his views on LGBT rights or gender politics are contradicted or betrayed by his actions (specifically ones where he's 'fake' and a 'one trick pony'? And explain the correlation and why exactly they're a betrayal of his views?

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Jack_

Do they now? Could you provide me with a few specific examples of where his views on LGBT rights or gender politics are contradicted or betrayed by his actions (specifically ones where he's 'fake' and a 'one trick pony'? And explain the correlation and why exactly they're a betrayal of his views?

THIS IS BIG BROTHER ,he can piss off and spout his ****e somewhere else ,it is a reality show,not a platform for his opinions

[Ant.]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

THIS IS BIG BROTHER ,he can piss off and spout his ****e somewhere else ,it is a reality show,not a platform for his opinions

... Big Brother's pretty much always been about people's opinions, WHAT are you on about?

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

THIS IS BIG BROTHER ,he can piss off and spout his ****e somewhere else ,it is a reality show,not a platform for his opinions

You realise the bit in bold is a contradiction, right? If it's a reality show, then discussing things you're interested in with the people you're living with would be...I don't know...an example of reality, no?

Also, if you're not interested in intellectual conversation on Big Brother - which is fine, we're all different - then what are you interested in? Because it seems whatever else goes down you're generally not happy with it either - play fighting, arguing, women expressing their sexuality, a group of young people drinking, the list goes on. You tend to get very angry and insulting about all of these things.

So what DO you want to watch, what are you looking for in a series of Big Brother?

[HBIC]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

THIS IS BIG BROTHER ,he can piss off and spout his ****e somewhere else ,it is a reality show,not a platform for his opinions

Not a platform for his opinions? Sounds like you just want BB to be a safe space where you don't hear anything you disagree with.

[Lilac hills]

Also for the record he literally hasn’t mentioned feminism once in the house and same with lgbt, of which he almost trivialised it with his fake relationship with Andrew

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by Lilac hills

It’s not just about his views it’s about his demeanour and his sneakiness in general

But have you not been watching the show that’s been airing for the last month? Honestly wouldn’t blame you it’s been dull af

No, it's about his discussions of LGBT rights and the like. The thread title is literally 'Shane J only topic of conversation'. If you wish to discuss his demeanour and 'sneakiness in general' there's other places to do so, I was addressing the threads title and content.

But I agree it's not been great.

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

EVERYONE has rights not just LGBT ,including Ann to not be a fan !!

Did I ever say everyone else didn't have rights? Did I ever say Ann had to be a fan of his? I don't think I did.

I merely said that many viewers and people on this forum could learn a lot from Shane J's discussions of LGBT rights and gender politics. Because they could. And they should.

Originally Posted by Lilac hills

Also for the record he literally hasn’t mentioned feminism once in the house and same with lgbt, of which he almost trivialised it with his fake relationship with Andrew

Well that's not true, he talked about LGBT rights with India and then with Ann when they discussed the equalising of the age of consent.

As for feminism, I'm not sure if the conversations have ever been broadcast but they've definitely happened because both Daniel and Jonny said in their eviction interviews that they had learned a lot about it from him.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Jack_

No, it's about his discussions of LGBT rights and the like. The thread title is literally 'Shane J only topic of conversation'. If you wish to discuss his demeanour and 'sneakiness in general' there's other places to do so, I was addressing the threads title and content.

But I agree it's not been great.



Did I ever say everyone else didn't have rights? Did I ever say Ann had to be a fan of his? I don't think I did.

I merely said that many viewers and people on this forum could learn a lot from Shane J's discussions of LGBT rights and gender politics. Because they could. And they should.



Well that's not true, he talked about LGBT rights with India and then with Ann when they discussed the equalising of the age of consent.

As for feminism, I'm not sure if the conversations have ever been broadcast but they've definitely happened because both Daniel and Jonny said in their eviction interviews that they had learned a lot about it from him.

To care to listen or learn about his LGBT bs, I would have to care, but sorry I cannot muster a flying one

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

To care to listen or learn about his LGBT bs, I would have to care, but sorry I cannot muster a flying one

Privilege in action folks.

[Ant.]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

To care to listen or learn about his LGBT bs, I would have to care, but sorry I cannot muster a flying one

Then I believe your issue lies within yourself, not with Shane J

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Lilbro

Then I believe your issue lies within yourself, not with Shane J

Thanks for pointing that out

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Lilac hills

Also for the record he literally hasn’t mentioned feminism once in the house and same with lgbt, of which he almost trivialised it with his fake relationship with Andrew

He does not have to specifically say the word feminism to be talking about feminist issues. He pulled up a room full of men on the way they were victim blaming the victims of Weinstein. Pulled up his best mate Andrew on misogynistic language. There have been a fair few occasions where he has espressed clearly feminist views.

[Ant.]

my favourite thing about this forum is how the same people feel the need to post ten threads to one of their opinions... like ok hen you're homophobic and racist, we learnt from the first 50 threads

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Lilbro

my favourite thing about this forum is how the same people feel the need to post ten threads to one of their opinions... like ok hen you're homophobic and racist, we learnt from the first 50 threads

insulting members is against the rules and can lead to a ban

we dont want that type of posts in here

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

insulting members is against the rules and can lead to a ban

we dont want that type of posts in here