[Shaun]

Originally Posted by poppsywoppsy

Amanda, she has lived the Gay life, long before Shane j was about.

She came out in 2002, two years after he did

[poppsywoppsy]

Originally Posted by Shaun

She came out in 2002, two years after he did

Not saying when she came out

She has been Gay for donkeys years

[Amy Jade]

Originally Posted by poppsywoppsy

Not saying when she came out

She has been Gay for donkeys years

No she hasn't. She was too scared to come out until 2002 because of people like Ann Widdecome.

[poppsywoppsy]

Originally Posted by Amy Jade

No she hasn't. She was too scared to come out until 2002 because of people like Ann Widdecome.

She hasn't kept it a secret as I knew of it and so did others

[jaxie]

Originally Posted by Amy Jade

No she hasn't. She was too scared to come out until 2002 because of people like Ann Widdecome.

SO you aren't gay until you come out in public? Well that's a new one. Here I was thinking you were born gay and telling people was your own business not the definition of your sexuality.

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by poppsywoppsy

Not saying when she came out

She has been Gay for donkeys years

i'm 100% on Amanda's side

Plus she's been around alot longer than him . She's older and wiser and she doesn't have time for a jumped up idiot like him to tell her how she should or shouldn't be feeling towards their rights and Ann's views

Shane J was patronising and insufferable , he's going to sit there and tell an old woman in her 80's about Ann's political views affecting them . Amanda and Wayne aren't interested in those topics and they've probably been through alot more in their life than he ever will .

Don't people find it suspect that now that Andrew has gone , he's pushing the same topic even more and he keeps targeting Ann.

[Underscore]

Shane J 150%

[GiRTh]

Clicked both but more on Shane J side. Its obvious what he was trying to do with Wayne and Amanda but I still dont understand why Amanda seemed to deny it and then went so low.

[Yaki da]

Amanda. Because she's on Ann's side.

[Rufus]

Amanda

[lewis111]

It's not about who's been gay for longer anyway? It's about who's doing a better job representing them now - the one who's trying to educate people on wby homophobia is wrong or the person trying to stop that person doing that

[Jay.]

clearly shane, YES he's gone on a bit but Amanda is in the wrong here.

[rusticgal]

Amanda...without a doubt.

[Lilac hills]

I don’t want agressive delirious manipulative idiots like Shane j representing gay people

You want to coexist among people, let other people exist too. Stop trying to bulldoze your views on Ann and when things don’t go ur way isolate her

[Vicky.]

Amanda. Shane was terrible tonight. Kind of wish he had not got his letter as that seemed to be what set him off properly..though he was already sniping on about Jess too

[Jamie89]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Amanda. Shane was terrible tonight. Kind of wish he had not got his letter as that seemed to be what set him off properly..though he was already sniping on about Jess too

Yeah I think the combination of the letter and his cheers/surviving the eviction is what set him off. I don't think he's actually wrong with the stuff he's saying about Ann though.

[poppsywoppsy]

I am so pleased to hear Gay posters do not want Shane representing them.

It shows people are individuals with their own choices, views and lifestyles.

A drag queen from Australia is good for entertainment but telling you how and what you should be, is arrogance beyond belief.

[odd sock]

Originally Posted by poppsywoppsy

I am so pleased to hear Gay posters do not want Shane representing them.

It shows people are individuals with their own choices, views and lifestyles.

A drag queen from Australia is good for entertainment but telling you how and what you should be, is arrogance beyond belief.

Thank you.

[Lilac hills]

Originally Posted by poppsywoppsy

I am so pleased to hear Gay posters do not want Shane representing them.

It shows people are individuals with their own choices, views and lifestyles.

A drag queen from Australia is good for entertainment but telling you how and what you should be, is arrogance beyond belief.

<gay and in agreement

[Jamie89]

Both. They just have a different approach to Ann and different opinions as to how they feel about her and react differently to her, neither of them are actually wrong and both perspectives are understandable. Amanda lived a long time closeted and the views that Ann holds were more acceptable for most of Amanda's life so it's more 'normal' for her and easier to look past, whereas Shane's lived with more freedom to express anti-homophobic views and I think their differences mainly come down to that.

[joeysteele]

No surprise from me,Shane J.

The lgbt rights issue is important to him.
He is a gay man,brushing his concerns aside was wrong.

The one thing he was unwise in was not directly asking her if she was prepared to discuss her feelings on lgbt rights.

My guess is she would have.

However I'd stand with Shane on this.
Amanda came across really bad,extremely bad in fact.
In my.opinion.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

No surprise from me,Shane J.

The lgbt rights issue is important to him.
He is a gay man,brushing his concerns aside was wrong.

The one thing he was unwise in was not directly asking her if she was prepared to discuss her feelings on lgbt rights.

My guess is she would have.

However I'd stand with Shane on this.
Amanda came across really bad,extremely bad in fact.
In my.opinion.

I agree. Her tone was almost aggressive? I didn't like it at all.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

I agree. Her tone was almost aggressive? I didn't like it at all.

It's important to him.
It would be nice to think people genuinely in favour of equal lgbt rights understood feelings on that.

Lgbt rights are greatly improved, no thanks at all for any from Ann Widdecombe.
Just still dismissing gay people and their concerns shows,in my view, only intolerance.

[poppsywoppsy]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

I agree. Her tone was almost aggressive? I didn't like it at all.

She disliked the way Shane J incessantly puts his interests before anyone else, even when asked not to.

He has been banging on for weeks, they must be heartily sick of him.

When people of the same sexual persuasions tell him enough is enough, you think he would take the hint.

So then, this is where you walk away.

[chuff me dizzy]

Shane was left high and dry and looking the total twat he is ,if I hear those fecking words LGBT again in my lifetime it will be too soon ,enough is enough **** You snivelling backstabbing little coward