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Ugh it’s amazing

I love weird stuff with eurovision! Its genius. Maybe UK should take notes and try something weird like Netta’s chicken or have something that will give you the right attention. Netta knew what she was doing and it worked.
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Again, it doesn't require good quality music.

Justin Bieber has had worldwide hits fgs, don't start ME Nicky.
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Justin Bieber well i hated his crap music as well


i would love for Estonia to win, since we never had a operatic eurovision winner
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Ugh it’s amazing

I love weird stuff with eurovision! Its genius. Maybe UK should take notes and try something weird like Netta’s chicken or have something that will give you the right attention. Netta knew what she was doing and it worked.
Scooch ha return?

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Ugh it’s amazing

I love weird stuff with eurovision! Its genius. Maybe UK should take notes and try something weird like Netta’s chicken or have something that will give you the right attention. Netta knew what she was doing and it worked.
and she can perform and work the stage

Suri can perform well too but she is shackled with a tired song
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Ugh it’s amazing

I love weird stuff with eurovision! Its genius. Maybe UK should take notes and try something weird like Netta’s chicken or have something that will give you the right attention. Netta knew what she was doing and it worked.
We sent Scooch which was far more fun and a catchier tune. We could send Adele and we still wouldn't win.
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We sent Scooch which was far more fun and a catchier tune. We could send Adele and we still wouldn't win.
We could be top 10 with Adele which would be a win for us tbf.
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We could be top 10 with Adele which would be a win for us tbf.
That's not really the point I was making haha

You said we should follow suit and send something fun, we have and it never worked - nothing will short of totally scrapping the public vote will get us the win now.
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We sent Scooch which was far more fun and a catchier tune. We could send Adele and we still wouldn't win.
Its a shame Lee Ryan screwed us of the top 5
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That's not really the point I was making haha

You said we should follow suit and send something fun, we have and it never worked - nothing will short of totally scrapping the public vote will get us the win now.
An amazing song will always beat the rigging

we send a katrina and the waves and we win

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I don't get this obsession with winning. Portugal waited 50 years to win again. I doubt they were as insecure as Britain is re. Eurovision.
Brits look down on Europe but at the same time want to be liked.
Just keep on selecting the best song possible and enjoy the ride. A win will come when it comes.
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I don't get this obsession with winning. Portugal waited 50 years to win again. I doubt they were as insecure as Britain is re. Eurovision.
Brits look down on Europe but at the same time want to be liked.
Just keep on selecting the best song possible and enjoy the ride. A win will come when it comes.
Only someone who doesn't understand the political history would say something like this.
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Because we put millions into the contest more then anyone else
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That's our own stupid fault. Should've pulled out years ago.
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Only someone who doesn't understand the political history would say something like this.
? pray, do tell

I'm only half British, quater Jewish and quater Polish. Lived half of my life on the continent. I may not know the political history, but I know the sentiment re. Britain on the continent.
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I don't get this obsession with winning. Portugal waited 50 years to win again. I doubt they were as insecure as Britain is re. Eurovision.
Brits look down on Europe but at the same time want to be liked.
Just keep on selecting the best song possible and enjoy the ride. A win will come when it comes.
I appreciate your sentiments but it is undeniable our low scores are mostly political now. We have sent some really good songs that have scored terribly and it is a stone cold fact most of Europe hate us haha
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I'm only half British, quater Jewish and quater Polish. Lived half of my life on the continent. I may not know the political history, but I know the sentiment re. Britain on the continent.
UK and Ireland were so dominant with Ireland winning 7 and UK 5 and the UK also came runner up over 20 times.

But since more countries were invited to join it became a vote for your neighbours contest and you can tell who is gonna get 12 from most of the countries
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Because we put millions into the contest more then anyone else
Germany or France do too. Don't see them having an annual hangover if they don't win.
Besides, nobody is forcing Britain. Pull out like we're pulling out of EU.
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That's not really the point I was making haha

You said we should follow suit and send something fun, we have and it never worked - nothing will short of totally scrapping the public vote will get us the win now.
Scooch was 10 years ago and i would say times have changed since then? A fun song could work for us now (depending on the song and live performance) to not flop badly? We will never win but a top 10 is possible which would be great for us.

We did so well last year (our highest placing in years) so with the right song with a lot of effort into it we could go higher than 15.
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we have not put a decent song in for many a year

i mean fecking ages

I likes Engelberts but Scootch was the last sort of go at it
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Germany or France do too. Don't see them having an annual hangover if they don't win.
Besides, nobody is forcing Britain. Pull out like we're pulling out of EU.
Germans are in the same boat as us but the broadcaster doesnt want to host again at this point
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I appreciate your sentiments but it is undeniable our low scores are mostly political now. We have sent some really good songs that have scored terribly and it is a stone cold fact most of Europe hate us haha
And what would be your guess as to why they may hate Britain?
Btw, I don't agree they do. They have ambivalent attitude to Britain, yes, but it is not hate.

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But since more countries were invited to join it became a vote for your neighbours contest and you can tell who is gonna get 12 from most of the countries
The rules should be changed. Countries could be divided into geographical blocks based on their past voting. Then they would only be allowed to vote for countries from other blocks, not their own. Of course it'd have to be weighed correctly, e.g. same number of countries in each block, etc
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Surie is too awkward and Storm is a meh song.. disappointing we had a great position last year and we go back to flopping
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