[user104658]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

Can you expound T.S because I do not really understand what you mean? It must be me because I see that BOTS does understand it.

We live in a society where sometimes there's a hell of a lot to say, and yet absolutely no point actually saying it.

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

We live in a society where sometimes there's a hell of a lot to say, and yet absolutely no point actually saying it.

Got it. Thanks, TS.

[Tony Montana]

I’m sorry to hear if it’s true, But why didn’t anyone say anything at the time?

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by scarface95

I’m sorry to hear if it’s true, But why didn’t anyone say anything at the time?

Why do you think?

[Tony Montana]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Why do you think?

Let me guess, because they were Terrified, traumatized and That nobody would believe them? Seems to me that’s the Excuse people use all the time. I’m sure it was a Difficult and Unforgettable Experience to Witness and I obviously can’t relate at all. However, Somebody should have at least had the Willpower to Confess straight after the Sexual Assualt. It could have Easily have Prevented Countless Women from Suffering the Same Fate.

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by scarface95

Let me guess, because they were Terrified, traumatized and That nobody would believe them? Seems to me that’s the Excuse people use all the time. I’m sure it was a Difficult and Unforgettable Experience to Witness and I obviously can’t relate at all. However, Somebody should have at least had the Willpower to Confess straight after the Sexual Assualt. It could have Easily have Prevented Countless Woman from Suffering the Same Fate.

Great post, Scarface and very relevant points. In my opinion.

[Tony Montana]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

Great post, Scarface and very relevant points. In my opinion.

Thanks for that, Kirk. it seems to me people don’t like to hear the Truth these days.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by scarface95

Let me guess, because they were Terrified, traumatized and That nobody would believe them? Seems to me that’s the Excuse people use all the time. I’m sure it was a Difficult and Unforgettable Experience to Witness and I obviously can’t relate at all. However, Somebody should have at least had the Willpower to Confess straight after the Sexual Assualt. It could have Easily have Prevented Countless Woman from Suffering the Same Fate.

Yes,I kind of agree with this ,terrified or not ,if someone does something that traumatises you,report asap,save other people from the same fate.

[Tony Montana]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Yes,I kind of agree with this ,terrified or not ,if someone does something that traumatises you,report asap,save other people from the same fate.

Thank you, Kazanne.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by scarface95

Let me guess, because they were Terrified, traumatized and That nobody would believe them? Seems to me that’s the Excuse people use all the time. I’m sure it was a Difficult and Unforgettable Experience to Witness and I obviously can’t relate at all. However, Somebody should have at least had the Willpower to Confess straight after the Sexual Assualt. It could have Easily have Prevented Countless Women from Suffering the Same Fate.

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

Great post, Scarface and very relevant points. In my opinion.

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Yes,I kind of agree with this ,terrified or not ,if someone does something that traumatises you,report asap,save other people from the same fate.

Yes, let's make the victims the ones at fault here. WOOHOO!!!

Justice4MorganSkirtLifterMorgan!!! YASSS GUYS!!! GOOD ONE!

[Strictly Jake]

Noooooo not Morgan freeman he seemed like the coolest guy ever who iou would love as a grandad.

[bots]

US film star Morgan Freeman has apologised following allegations of sexual misconduct made by eight women and several others.

One production assistant accused Freeman of harassing her for months during filming of bank robbery comedy Going in Style, CNN reported.

She said the 79-year-old touched her repeatedly, tried to lift her skirt and asked if she was wearing underwear.

Freeman apologised to "anyone who felt uncomfortable or disrespected".

"Anyone who knows me or has worked with me knows I am not someone who would intentionally offend or knowingly make anyone feel uneasy," he said in a statement.

Making women feel uncomfortable was "never my intent", he said.

He is the latest well-known Hollywood figure to be accused of sexual misconduct after allegations of sex attacks by producer Harvey Weinstein led to the development of the #MeToo campaign against sexual harassment.

The production assistant told CNN that during the harassment another actor, Alan Arkin, "made a comment telling him to stop. Morgan got freaked out and didn't know what to say".

Meanwhile a woman who worked on the 2013 film Now You See Me said staff knew "not to wear any top that would show our breasts, not to wear anything that would show our bottoms" or any close-fitting clothes if Freeman was around.

Morgan is also said to have stared at women's breasts and asked women to twirl for him.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-44247166

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doesn't seem to me that he is admitting anything

[GiRTh]

This is going to be fascinating. Just had one of the accusers on CNN and showed the incident with Freeman at a press conference with Michael Caine and Alan Arkin. So its not like he was hiding his behaviour and tip toeing around. At least two women are not accusing Freeman of touching or anything further than making sexually charged comments

[GiRTh]

It seems most are accusing Freeman of making comments and inappropriate behaviour. At what point do his comments become harassment? This is going to be a fascinating case if it gets to trial.

[GiRTh]

The interview just on CNN with one of the accusers Chloe Melas

[LaLaLand]

Not Morgan!?

[bots]

it's very simplistic to say that victims should have come forward. Woman are raped every day and don't report it with (to them) very valid reasons. Rather than demonizing them and making it even more difficult for people to come forward in the future, they should be respected and listened to. If there is a case for the perpetrators to answer, then get them in front of a judge. Do something about it rather than having a trial by media

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

it's very simplistic to say that victims should have come forward. Woman are raped every day and don't report it with (to them) very valid reasons. Rather than demonizing them and making it even more difficult for people to come forward in the future, they should be respected and listened to. If there is a case for the perpetrators to answer, then get them in front of a judge. Do something about it rather than having a trial by media

I totally understand that,the thing that bothers me is even IF someone is found not guilty of such things their careers and reputations are ruined for life, I don't think people should be named unless they are found to be guilty as mud sticks.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

I totally understand that,the thing that bothers me is even IF someone is found not guilty of such things their careers and reputations are ruined for life, I don't think people should be named unless they are found to be guilty as mud sticks.

This.

[Crimson Dynamo]

and if he wasnt rich and famous...

nothing


pathetic

[user104658]

Can we just take a second to point out here; no one has accused him of sexual assault. He's been accused of leering / being pervy / making comments / potentially abusing his position of power / occasional unwanted touching (but not groping).

Now while these things are not OK and there should be a definite drive to stamp them out... Can we please stop referring to them as "sexual assault" or making out that someone doing these things is a "sexual predator" rather than just, sadly, a dirty old man?

At the most basic; it's just damn offensive to the victims of actual sexual assault.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Can we just take a second to point out here; no one has accused him of sexual assault. He's been accused of leering / being pervy / making comments / potentially abusing his position of power / occasional unwanted touching (but not groping).

Now while these things are not OK and there should be a definite drive to stamp them out... Can we please stop referring to them as "sexual assault" or making out that someone doing these things is a "sexual predator" rather than just, sadly, a dirty old man?

At the most basic; it's just damn offensive to the victims of actual sexual assault.

Yes all true TS.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Can we just take a second to point out here; no one has accused him of sexual assault. He's been accused of leering / being pervy / making comments / potentially abusing his position of power / occasional unwanted touching (but not groping).

Now while these things are not OK and there should be a definite drive to stamp them out... Can we please stop referring to them as "sexual assault" or making out that someone doing these things is a "sexual predator" rather than just, sadly, a dirty old man?

At the most basic; it's just damn offensive to the victims of actual sexual assault.

when Matt Damon suggested in an interview that there should be a spectrum involved rather than one or two words he was attacked

"I do believe there's a spectrum of behavior. … You know, there's a difference between, you know, patting someone on the butt and rape or child molestation, right? Both of those behaviors need to be confronted and eradicated without question, but they shouldn't be conflated."

[bots]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

when Matt Damon suggested in an interview that there should be a spectrum involved rather than one or two words he was attacked

"I do believe there's a spectrum of behavior. … You know, there's a difference between, you know, patting someone on the butt and rape or child molestation, right? Both of those behaviors need to be confronted and eradicated without question, but they shouldn't be conflated."

yeah, the most infuriating thing is the trial by media with keyboard warriors defining who is guilty and what constitutes guilt. These cases should by processed promptly by authorities so that it can be determined quickly and concisely if there is a case to answer or not.

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Can we just take a second to point out here; no one has accused him of sexual assault. He's been accused of leering / being pervy / making comments / potentially abusing his position of power / occasional unwanted touching (but not groping).

Now while these things are not OK and there should be a definite drive to stamp them out... Can we please stop referring to them as "sexual assault" or making out that someone doing these things is a "sexual predator" rather than just, sadly, a dirty old man?

At the most basic; it's just damn offensive to the victims of actual sexual assault.

I totally agree with you T.S. but let's hope that your post is directed at Marsh who is the only member guilty on this thread of labelling Morgan Freeman in such a manner:

"He's publicly apologising for sexual assault"

"People like Freeman not being predatory"

In addition to terms such as 'Pervert' etc.