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Maru · 01-07-2018, 07:34 PM

No, the system doesn't expect the voter to be completely infallible... it is dependent on their influence, but it's not like a voter can be absolutely have it all established for them before they hit the polls. It's not always a fully informed vote... it's impossible for the voter to be 100% aware of all the facts anyway at all times... not everyone can decipher information to that level or understand what it means... they only care what it means for them*. Sometimes, a vote from the gut is more than ample to get a fair result... they voted with the information they had at the time. Doing another vote will not necessarily "invalidate" the last result... if the new result were too close, then it would be very contentuous... plus if there is another referendum, it's possible that may "pollute" the waters so to speak, because then people will feel well... maybe I didn't have it right the first time, since they redid the vote. May actually suppress their vote or confuse them further, so it would not be a true result anyway...

* Now, I think the exception is when the circumstances behind the vote change entirely. Say Brexit will actually happen fundamentally different than how it was described on the ballot... then a new vote should be done, as it's technically a new referendum. Say Brexit was about leaving the union, but then became a totally new type of agreement... then it's important to get a new result I think if the actual outcome would be completely different than what was polled... unless for reason, Brexit is completely unreversible (can't go back to the EU, etc)... then I think that should probably be handled at a high court level, maybe referring to the constitution in those instances, what the default would be, etc... because then I think it would be far too technical for the voter to effectively decide...

glibberglobber · 01-07-2018, 07:35 PM

No... 2 years have passed and if people really were having regrets there would be massive petitions and stuff... I haven't really noticed much change but I am not a political person

kirklancaster · 01-07-2018, 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by bitontheslide

Having a second referendum would be completely undemocratic. I voted remain last time round, but if another vote was forced, i would vote to leave out of democratic principle.

hijaxers · 01-07-2018, 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Matthew.

Vote in the poll above ⬆️

Considering we now have more information than we did when we originally had the vote 2 years ago, do you think we should have another referendum on Brexit?

Absolutely not.

kirklancaster · 01-07-2018, 09:26 PM

I'm afraid that I have to admit to being something of a ditherer when it comes to; 'Should We Brexit, Shouldn't We?' Oh......Whatever the majority think.

Shaun · 01-07-2018, 09:58 PM

If there's a chance to jump out of a car that's heading towards a cliff, I'll take it.

I appreciate that it would make us look weak in the EU if we decided to remain after all, but

Firewire · 01-07-2018, 10:15 PM

Yes let's vote again!

Maru · 01-07-2018, 10:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

I'm afraid that I have to admit to being something of a ditherer when it comes to; 'Should We Brexit, Shouldn't We?' Oh......Whatever the majority think.

What does this comment mean, kirk? When I think of dithering... I automatically think of pixels... not referendums

reece(: · 01-07-2018, 10:33 PM

There should be a vote on the final deal terms

Brillopad · 02-07-2018, 05:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Firewire

Yes let's vote again!

Not happening.

kirklancaster · 02-07-2018, 06:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maru

What does this comment mean, kirk? When I think of dithering... I automatically think of pixels... not referendums

I was being facetious, Maru. I oppose our 'membership' of the corrupt EU with every fibre of my being. To dither means to be anxiously unable to make a decision or act one way or the other.

thesheriff443 · 02-07-2018, 07:13 AM

No, it was a bad relationship to be in, the eu are making it difficult.

Alf · 02-07-2018, 08:55 AM

Rumours are, that it turns out that Cameron asked Obama to say "we'll go to the back of the queue"

Russian collusion eh?

arista · 02-07-2018, 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matthew.

Vote in the poll above ⬆️

Considering we now have more information than we did when we originally had the vote 2 years ago, do you think we should have another referendum on Brexit?

We are not having a 2nd Vote.

Both Labour and Conservative has said no.
LibDem is so small in numbers , they do not count.
PM Cameron went on Every TV station
and Radio news telling everyone this was a Vote of a Lifetime
no other Referendum would take place.

It was made Very Clear.

As for the current PM May
she is back peddling
and could be removed
only if they get the amount of votes

The EU has confirmed we leave at 11PM
Friday 29th March 2019
FECKING FACT

Brillopad · 02-07-2018, 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista

We are not having a 2nd Vote.

Both Labour and Conservative has said no.
LibDem is so small in numbers , they do not count.
PM Cameron went on Every TV station
and Radio news telling everyone this was a Vote of a Lifetime
no other Referendum would take place.

It was made Very Clear.

As for the current PM May
she is back peddling
and could be removed
only if they get the amount of votes

The EU has confirmed we leave at 11PM
Friday 29th March 2019
FECKING FACT

Well said Arista!

arista · 02-07-2018, 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alf

Rumours are, that it turns out that Cameron asked Obama to say "we'll go to the back of the queue"

Russian collusion eh?

Yes the Conservatives Did
as in USA its back of the Line

Its a fact , no rumor.

USA President should have stayed well away of our Politics.

arista · 02-07-2018, 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by reece(:

There should be a vote on the final deal terms

Conservative and Labour
say NO.

No Vote on the Deal
with any Public.
Fact

arista · 02-07-2018, 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shaun

If there's a chance to jump out of a car that's heading towards a cliff, I'll take it.

I appreciate that it would make us look weak in the EU if we decided to remain after all, but

No its got Child Locks
and no windows will open.

Marsh. · 02-07-2018, 11:49 AM

No.

What then? We have further new information in 2 more years so we have another vote?

When do you draw the line?

arista · 02-07-2018, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Chewcobo

I voted Remain, but no, Brexit is happening, let's just get on with it and make the best we can of it.

Well done
That's The Spirit

Brillopad · 02-07-2018, 11:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista

No its got Child Locks
and no windows will open.

It always amazes me how those not in the know act as though they are! Each side has its opinion but no one can stand up and state as a fact it will be the catastrophe they claim. It’s all supposition on their part. Even the economic ‘experts’ disagree!

Crimson Dynamo · 02-07-2018, 12:10 PM

I am still smarting about Gamu on the X-Factor so its a no from me

arista · 02-07-2018, 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alf

Rumours are, that it turns out that Cameron asked Obama to say "we'll go to the back of the queue"

Russian collusion eh?

Its a fact now

[Cameron 'personally requested Obama's back of the queue Brexit warning'
An ex-White House adviser says the former PM asked Mr Obama to be pessimistic about a trade deal in April 2016.]

https://news.sky.com/story/cameron-p...rning-11423669