[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Ammi

...Kay did persist in the conversation the evening before though when Lewis wasn’t in the vibe to talk about it or talk in general...he was laying in bed with his eye mask on...they’re two peas in slightly different pods in how there emotions are released...Kay gets upset and sometimes cries...he whinges and sometimes rants...(...alcohol I think enhances the ranting more..)...neither of them are nasty though, imo....

He rolled over and she asked him if he was still sulking, that was it, then he started ranting ,it wasn't like he was under the covers and she was still going on at him he was sat up in the bed, Ammi he is a nasty piece of work no question, I don't comment that much on whether people are nice or nasty, but I won't hold back on this one because he is.

[Ammi]

...in BB, it’s often that housemates are either nasty or nice, no in between...I guess it makes it easy for Santa Claus to make his ticking list, with the simplicity of it all...

[bots]

Originally Posted by Ammi

...Kay did persist in the conversation the evening before though when Lewis wasn’t in the vibe to talk about it or talk in general...he was laying in bed with his eye mask on...they’re two peas in slightly different pods in how there emotions are released...Kay gets upset and sometimes cries...he whinges and sometimes rants...(...alcohol I think enhances the ranting more..)...neither of them are nasty though, imo....

the thing that annoys me most about Lewis F is the way he manipulates the situations specifically for his audience. The shaking and shouting at Anamelia, the hiding in the corner victim from lewis G, and then the butter wouldnt melt while shouting and aggressively attacking Kay.

Someone will be next on his hit list, be in no doubt about it

[Jase.]

Yeah I love him but he was wrong bringing it up when she clearly didn't wanna talk about it.

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by Jase.

Yeah I love him but he was wrong bringing it up when she clearly didn't wanna talk about it.

...but she did and started to make digs. Perhaps she should have walked away. If Lewis winds her up so much go and chat to others...we never see her chat to anyone else do we?

[Jase.]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

...but she did and started to make digs. Perhaps she should have walked away. If Lewis winds her up so much go and chat to others...we never see her chat to anyone else do we?

Tbf I was only half watching it at that point. What were the digs?

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by Jase.

Tbf I was only half watching it at that point. What were the digs?

She said she didn't want to talk about it..then continued to talk about it hence Lewis defending himself..and the whole thing escalating.
One of them should have walked away...they were as bad as each other wanting to have the upper hand...but she wouldn't let it drop and neither did he. It wasn't one sided.

[bots]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

She said she didn't want to talk about it..then continued to talk about it hence Lewis defending himself..and the whole thing escalating.
One of them should have walked away...they were as bad as each other wanting to have the upper hand...but she wouldn't let it drop and neither did he. It wasn't one sided.

she asked him to stop, that she didnt want to talk about it, but he wouldnt let it rest ... he poked and poked and then got more and more aggressive while she remained completely calm and placating

I get that some people dislike Kay and that's fine, but it was as clear as day who the guilty party was there. Cameron and him know the have ****ed up, hence their conversation in the bathroom.

[Rufus]

He shouldn't of continued when she told him to stop but when he first initiated the conversation I don't think he was intending to create an argument.

[Tony Montana]

He’s one of my Favs but I agree he was Awful tonight

[Jordan.]

I like him but he gets on my tits when he's in an argument and the Cameron stanning has got to go

[Epic.]

Part of his stuff tonight was obsessive but I really don't think he purposefully went out of his way to upset Kay; someone who he thought very highly of before clashing with her. I think he just exaggerates a lot of things out of his own paranoia. Not the nicest person but still very compelling for me.

Plus I found Kay quite patronising and annoying sometimes, so I can see the root of why he was upset at least

[Garfie]

Kay was worse last night, by provoking him when he was trying to sleep, and then also provoking Cameron, but tonight Lewis was worse and should have stopped when she told him numerous times she didn't want to discuss their argument. He was uncomfortable viewing tonight.

[Robertocarlo]

Originally Posted by Amy Jade

He followed Kay around pretending he was worried about her when all he really wanted to do was have a pop at her.

She literally begged the guy to leave it until tomorrow when she was in a better frame or mind but he just had to have a go at her and when she never argued back he left her to go and slag her off to anyone willing to listen.

Snide and manipulative and he showed himself up tonight.

Have to agree with you there. I was not impressed at all with Lewis who effectively shoved Kay out of the door!

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by Robertocarlo

Have to agree with you there. I was not impressed at all with Lewis who effectively shoved Kay out of the door!

Kay has been trying to get out for days...she couldn't handle other people having an opinion on her...she enticed debate and didn't like it when people came back at her, then running to the diary room wanting to leave. Pathetic.
Lewis isn't one to leave unfinished business...she was as stubborn as he is...but she couldn't handle it. Too used to getting her own way IMO. That's why she kept going back..because she wanted to have the last hurrah...

[Mystic Mock]

Normally I think that Lewis F wipes the floor with Kay in arguments, but tonight he deliberately looked for that fight imo.

[Twosugars]

Lewis - pretty on the outside, ugly on the inside

and he has the cheek to quote Dalai Lama in the diary room

[AnnieK]

He was my worst kind of antagonist tonight. I hate people who repeat and then deflect arguments back and then can't see that they are looking for a fight. Kay asked him to leave it...he couldn't and picked. Awful trait in a person

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

He was my worst kind of antagonist tonight. I hate people who repeat and then deflect arguments back and then can't see that they are looking for a fight. Kay asked him to leave it...he couldn't and picked. Awful trait in a person

But Kay is equally as guilty of this behaviour...she did it with Cameron last night in the bedroom creating an arguement..being sarcastic. When he came back at her she didn't like it and then just patronised him saying he was childish...then running to the diary room wanting to leave again..she can dish it but can't take it.

[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

But Kay is equally as guilty of this behaviour...she did it with Cameron last night in the bedroom creating an arguement..being sarcastic. When he came back at her she didn't like it and then just patronised him saying he was childish...then running to the diary room wanting to leave again..she can dish it but can't take it.

Oh, I'm in no way saying she is innocent, I was commenting on the thread and I agreed Lewis was awful tonight. I've said all along Kay is an actress and knows how to work a situation but in the case of tonight's episode, that was Lewis' vitriol

[mr rochester]

He just would not let it go...

[poppsywoppsy]

What I thought was also telling was when she was in the garden after spending the night in the other bedroom.

She went and sat as near to Lewis as she could. It is what she does, she is sneaky in her ways to wring every bit of sympathy and goad Lewis into confrontation. She could have sat anywhere but No.

[Garfie]

Originally Posted by poppsywoppsy

What I thought was also telling was when she was in the garden after spending the night in the other bedroom.

She went and sat as near to Lewis as she could. It is what she does, she is sneaky in her ways to wring every bit of sympathy and goad Lewis into confrontation. She could have sat anywhere but No.

Yes, I noticed that. I wondered why she had chosen to sit right next to where he was when there were numerous other sunny spots and chairs in the garden. I do think Lewis was definitely out of order tonight, but Kay's behaviour is somewhat odd and she seems to try to provoke a reaction from others.

The dynamic between the two of them is very strange and unhealthy to say the least.

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by poppsywoppsy

What I thought was also telling was when she was in the garden after spending the night in the other bedroom.

She went and sat as near to Lewis as she could. It is what she does, she is sneaky in her ways to wring every bit of sympathy and goad Lewis into confrontation. She could have sat anywhere but No.

So telling....why didn't she sit with the others who were all welcoming (despite bitching about her moments earlier)

But no..she intentionally went and sat with Lewis who clearly didn't want to talk...
Like I have said...she's her own worst enemy and wanted another bit of drama.

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

So telling....why didn't she sit with the others who were all welcoming (despite bitching about her moments earlier)

But no..she intentionally went and sat with Lewis who clearly didn't want to talk...
Like I have said...she's her own worst enemy and wanted another bit of drama.

And she sarcastically said to the other's on the smoking bench "oh i'm going to sit with my friend" , she definitely enjoys a reaction but she's emotionally not right in the head . Lewis has his issues and the problem is because she plays victim and get's really dismissive it can come across like he's argumentative as he always wants answers . But he should of just dropped it .

But she overreacts too often , and if she's not in the right state of mind then why did she take part in BB . And Both of them were in the wrong as they both kept going round in circles over the same thing and it was boring .