[montblanc]

Originally Posted by Redway

Did your phone let you access nude pictures on Snapchat when you were 8?

well no

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Redway

Did your phone let you access nude pictures on Snapchat when you were 8?

I think that 8 year olds would be watching Cartoons and playing Video Games on the Mobile Phone rather than being on Snapchat tbf.

[Morgan.]

Originally Posted by montblanc

i had my first phone when i was 8 and i turned out fine so i don't think phones are the problem

Children are different though. Some kids at 8 would do nothing but want the phone, and throw tantrums when they got one.

My first smart phone (I had a ****ty flip one that did just calls for a while) was when I was in year 9 and even that didn't do much because it was ****ing Microsoft and they can't make good phones

I didn't get an iPhone until literally last year

[Redway]

Yes, yes and yes.

[Liam-]

If you raise a kid properly and teach them right from wrong, then 90% of the time, they’ll turn out to be good people no matter what technology is in front of them

I think parents are just gradually getting lazier, kids need discipline, a lot of parents these days want to be friends with their kids rather than be parents and that’s when you get kids without boundaries and fear of repercussions.

[Alf]

Kids should only be allowed to have old Nokias, for emergences. That's a fair compromise.

[smudgie]

A bit of stick and a lot of carrot.
Parenting classes wouldn’t come amiss either.
Your kids are not your friends, they are your responsibility, you love and nurture them until they can make big decisions on their own.
You become friends once they become young adults, hopefully.
Kids don’t need money thrown at them, just love..and understanding.

[montblanc]

Originally Posted by smudgie

A bit of stick and a lot of carrot.
Parenting classes wouldn’t come amiss either.
Your kids are not your friends, they are your responsibility, you love and nurture them until they can make big decisions on their own.
You become friends once they become young adults, hopefully.
Kids don’t need money thrown at them, just love..and understanding.

[Moniqua]

wow some of y'all would be AWFUL parents tf

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Moniqua

wow some of y'all would be AWFUL parents tf

I know that I'd teach my children proper English. And teach them that it's "you all' and not "y'all"

[Moniqua]

Originally Posted by Alf

I know that I'd teach my children proper English. And teach them that it's "you all' and not "y'all"

am not english, am oirish WHEW

[Tom4784]

Only **** parents and teachers would need to resort to the threat of violent punishments to keep kids under control.

[Denver]

I dont remember anyone saying anything about violent punishment

[Mokka]

Originally Posted by Adam.

Teachers are not even allowed to raise their voices without being reported anymore so should we put more authority back into schools?

I think it will certainly help the children of today who are total unruly and could potentially help with the knife problems.

I also think parents should be allowed to discipline aswell

Where is the proof that yelling at someone in a raised voice will foster any kind of discipline. Pretty sure research points to the opposite. Why would we want our educators to teach our children that yelling is how you get things done. It only demeans the person you are yelling at.

And of course parents are allowed to discipline their children. They aren't allowed to physically abuse them, or put them deliberately in danger but giving them consequences for their actions is discipline.

Originally Posted by Adam.

Social services are very strict on how you punish a child like your not even allowed to send them to their rooms and make them sit on a step as it is deemed cruel

Lies

Originally Posted by Adam.

I dont remember anyone saying anything about violent punishment

That and punishment that leads to their detriment are the only forms of disciple not allowed.

You make no sense Adam.

[Koadey]

I'm a teacher, and I taught at two different schools in South Korea and now one in China. I can attest to this. I feel I've learned that some kids are more testing, and it's different for each student. The main differenc is that I had to report major offneses, diffuse offenses, or report recurring, minor offenses because if a native teacher had disciplined them for the same action, they'd potentially throw me under the bus by saying I don't do anything when they get caught. In a couple of cases, I had to report incidents to the director because the students couldn't verbally communicate well enough for me to get both sides of their story.

In the private school I taught in South Korea, you cant discipline students because these schools are ran by corporations and are ran like a business. If you discipline a student, they'll slander you to their prantes, who will then pull the kid out of the school in a heartbeat and the director would blame you for "costing them money". One major offense was when a girl, who was eight years old had asked me, "do you like a woman's" ..... and then pointed to her chest and then asked "do you like a woman's" ...... and then pointed to between her legs. I just had to tell the director to avoid her from doing this again.


At the international school in China, I just reasoned with one students. For instance, they plagarised an essay, so I had just told her that if she wants to be a doctor, if she does this in med school, she'll instantly get expelled and ruin her career before it would even begin. I did tell the director, who scolded her in Korean, until she went back to her desk in tears. I had another student who failed all of his classes, except Math where he had a C average. He legit told me that he doesn't care about his grades and in fact, he'd rather live in North Korea than study or do homework. Another student tells me that he just plays computer games until 3am in the morning, so that's where the parenting comes in.

In China, I'm at a public school, and I was given a list of things I can't do to discipline students, such as kick them out of the class or assign homework as a punishment. I'll communicate with the other Chinese English teachers for incidents. I do know that if students don't hand in their homework, Chinese teachers will remove the student's chair and make then stand for the entire day, which can be until over 5:00pm. Last week, a student placed two halves fo a ball in his shirt to make breasts, a classic. Just today, a few students looked at an English-Chinese dictionary and got fixated over the word, "castrate" and I had to stop three boys from picking up a smaller boy and proceeding to walk over to a five-story ledge.

My biggest problem in China is that I have 52 students per class, and nine different classes, so I'll never learn names.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Adam.

I dont remember anyone saying anything about violent punishment

The cane was brought up at one point.

[Denver]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

The cane was brought up at one point.

I didn't take that post seriously

[Elliot]

It’s not a schools place to discipline children. I wouldn’t trust most of these teachers with drilling in facts about math nevermind instilling values and respect lol

[Morgan.]

Originally Posted by Elliot

It’s not a schools place to discipline children. I wouldn’t trust most of these teachers with drilling in facts about math nevermind instilling values and respect lol

What are the school meant to do then? You've got a child causing havoc, misbehaving, bullying, vandalising etc and the school do nothing, okay. But then they go home to a parent who doesnt really care what they've done and the child continues.

Whilst children are under the care and responsibility of schools, it's their job to give discipline. I'm not talking about any physical discipline like the cane, because that's absurd, but there are other ways to instil discipline.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Blurryface

What are the school meant to do then? You've got a child causing havoc, misbehaving, bullying, vandalising etc and the school do nothing, okay. But then they go home to a parent who doesnt really care what they've done and the child continues.

Whilst children are under the care and responsibility of schools, it's their job to give discipline. I'm not talking about any physical discipline like the cane, because that's absurd, but there are other ways to instil discipline.

Worked in a school when all these BS rules came in ,one dinnertime 2 boys were kicking 7 bells out of each other,I went over and pulled them apart ,another member of staff came over and said "Oh dear ,did you put your hands on them ?" I said yes of course, they would have killed each other if I hadn't, she said "You can get the sack for doing that ,you have to talk them out of the fight "No way would they have stopped with me asking them to.......I left shortly after that ,I couldn't stand by and watch children hurt each other

[chuff me dizzy]

I disciplined my children, my son and daughter discipline their children ,who is there to tell you can't? Its just an excuse from lazy parents who think its ok for their brats to do as they wish

[arista]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

I disciplined my children, my son and daughter discipline their children ,who is there to tell you can't? Its just an excuse from lazy parents who think its ok for their brats to do as they wish

Yes you have that right Chuff,

[Niamh.]

When you say "discipline" I presume you mean hit because you are allowed discipline your kids I find it unlikely that the only reason kids end up in gangs etc is because their parents don't hit them

[Kazanne]

Kids are totally different now than a few years back , lazy parents giving in to their kids every whim so they can go and have a fag and coffee with their mate or some peace and quiet , it has resulted in feral kids who have no respect for anything, they carry weapons , hang in gangs and bully people, and they just do not care as they know they wont be punished, I would also be happy for teachers punishing mine if they were disrespectful or naughty in school as long as they didn't hit them, kids need to know their boundries and too many today , don't.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Kids are totally different now than a few years back , lazy parents giving in to their kids every whim so they can go and have a fag and coffee with their mate or some peace and quiet , it has resulted in feral kids who have no respect for anything, they carry weapons , hang in gangs and bully people, and they just do not care as they know they wont be punished, I would also be happy for teachers punishing mine if they were disrespectful or naughty in school as long as they didn't hit them, kids need to know their boundries and too many today , don't.

So true !! we have lots of feral kids near me, out at all hours and up to no good while the mothers are on Facebook telling everyone what great parents they are, or at their mates trying out new gins !! Discipline starts and ends at home ( or should do ) and if their brat ends up a full time thug its the parents fault and no one elses