[lily.]

I wouldn't use the word. And although I understand the argument about black people using it amongst other black people or Jewish people telling Jewish jokes etc. ... this is different. I'm Scottish and I tell Scottish jokes. My husband is Catholic and he tells catholic jokes. This is a fact of life.

However, on the TV, some things are not acceptable. For that matter, in everyday life things aren't acceptable. For example.. In a workplace, I might call my co-worker a bitch when I'm talking to her like if she got tickets for a gig I wanted to go to, I would be like.. "you lucky bitch". However I wouldn't dream of using that word to talk to a customer. It's about knowing when certain language is appropriate. Charley and Emily only met a week ago. She does not know her well enough to use that word, nor should she use it when she is on the TV. I don't buy this "we forget about the cameras" crap. No they don't. They just don't stop and think. Unfortunately for Emily, she didn't stop and think. She just said the word and now she's paying the price.

[ttw]

Originally posted by JuicyLucy
What term would we use? I'm just asking a serious question now. Is it ok that I get called "white" can we use the term black without coming across as racist?

yes you can call a black person black bcos they are black but just dont call them a ******. not that hard.

[GiRTh]

Originally posted by Sticks
There was also the case of a mayoral aid who was forced to resign for using a word that starts with the same four letters as the N word, but meant stingy or mean and had been around since the 1300s. Due to forum rules I can not say what this word is, because it sounds like the N word

Widening this up, there is also the issue of other words or phrases, which now become unacceptable because people believe they have racist roots, even though some of these beliefs are plain wrong. Because people believe them, that is enough to ban them.

Here is a brief list, and if anyone is offended I will edit them out.

Picnic - Believed to refer to lynching parties in the American deep south, although this is not true.

A good egg, originally meaning that the person was a good person, but it is now banned because the expression "Egg and Spoon" is believed to be cockney rhyming slang for another racially offensive word

Nitty Gritty - Believed by some to refer to the detritus left behind at the bottom of slave ships. Incidentally one minister got condemned for using this expression

I heard about this. HE user the word niggered and he used it in the correct context.

[Sticks]

But he was still forced to resign because it sounded like the N word

[Slartibartfast]

He used the word *****rd or *****rdly (not sure which exactly) and used it in the correct context when talking about financial stuff. He was later offered his job back when the whole issue was resolved:

On January 15, 1999, David Howard, a white aide to Anthony A. Williams, the black mayor of Washington, D.C., United States, used the word in reference to a budget. This apparently upset one of his black colleagues (identified by Howard as Marshall Brown), who incorrectly interpreted it as a racial slur and lodged a complaint. As a result, on January 25 Howard tendered his resignation, and Williams accepted it.[1]

However, after pressure from the gay community (of which Howard was a member) and black leaders, an internal review into the matter was brought about, and the mayor offered Howard the chance to return to his position as Office of the Public Advocate on February 4. Howard refused but accepted another position with the mayor instead, insisting that he did not feel victimized by the incident. On the contrary, Howard felt that he had learned from the situation. "I used to think it would be great if we could all be colorblind. That's naive, especially for a white person, because a white person can't afford to be colorblind. They don't have to think about race every day. An African American does."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/*****rdly

[Sticks]

This is now another word on the banned list - after reading through the other case histories in that wiki

[Sticks]

Funnily enough the following came as part of a newsletter sent to our church email account

The Power Of A Word
A careless word may
kindle strife; a cruel word may
wreck a life; a bitter word may
hate instill; a brutal word may
smite and kill; a gracious word
may smoothe the way; a joyous
word may light the way;
a timely word may heal and
bless. The power of the spoken
word cannot be calculated.
No wonder that our
Lord said, “Every idle word
that men shall speak, they
shall give account thereof in
the day of judgment. For by
thy words they shalt be justified,
and by thy words thy
shalt be condemned.”
Matthew 12:36-37
Unknown

[m.r.davies]

there was a case in a school recently

the white kid had mostly black friends who called each of ******* all day long,
when the white kid called one of his friends a ****** (all friendly), he got turned on
at first he didn't know what had happened then the parents, school and the race commision got involved

the black kid got expelled on advice from the race commision for being a racist, this was because the black kids argument was, "its ok for blacks to call each other *******, but not for a white person to call a black person a ******"

I think people are over sensitive on this subject.
but thats probably because i'm not a racist and have never been a victim of racist abuse (well i have but its all been a joke and i've never taken offence)

[ttw]

"I used to think it would be great if we could all be colorblind. That's naive, especially for a white person, because a white person can't afford to be colorblind. They don't have to think about race every day. An African American does."

interesting...

[GiRTh]

Originally posted by m.r.davies
there was a case in a school recently

the white kid had mostly black friends who called each of ******* all day long,
when the white kid called one of his friends a ni**er (all friendly), he got turned on
at first he didn't know what had happened then the parents, school and the race commision got involved

the black kid got expelled on advice from the race commision for being a racist, this was because the black kids argument was, "its ok for blacks to call each other *******, but not for a white person to call a black person a ******"

I think people are over sensitive on this subject.
but thats probably because i'm not a racist and have never been a victim of racist abuse (well i have but its all been a joke and i've never taken offence)

That's extremely unfortunate and just plain wrong. If the black kids were so sensiteive then they should not have used the word in front of the white kid.

[Dr43%er]

It makes me laugh when some people say the "N" word is not offensive. In that case why not say "******" instead of "N word"????

[ttw]

Originally posted by Dr43%er
It makes me laugh when some people say the "N" word is not offensive. In that case why not say "******" instead of "N word"????

lol gd point

[Sticks]

Typing out the N word may be a violation of the TIBB hosting service, so please reframe from spelling it out, and like George Galloway, just refer to it as the N word

[bananarama]

Originally posted by Sticks
Funnily enough the following came as part of a newsletter sent to our church email account

And having to tread on eggs just makes one big mess...
Trying to please everone is a recipe for insanity..

Which is the perfect description for todays control freakism Britain......

[Dr43%er]

Sticks, I see your point, but for my point to work i had to say the full word. I could hardly say, In that case why not say "N word" instead of "N word"????

[nodisharmony]

Originally posted by Dr43%er
It makes me laugh when some people say the "N" word is not offensive. In that case why not say "******" instead of "N word"????

Because "you" can say the word within your posts, as the way have worded your post, explains "why".

It is like other offensive-to-some words, which can be said within a post from a certain-protected person also.

It depends on the surroundings in-general, who it is & where it is & so much more.

Also, how it is, "within-the-sentance"

________________________________________
I have something amazing to tell you & everyone else actually.

The "N" word which Emily said, got her thrown out of the BB house. After she said it, it was all over the news.

But then, Channel 4 & Endemol showed the complete & utter uncut footage, containing the (N) word, just as YOU have TYPED it into YOUR post, "oh-protected-one"

So, how can that happen?????

If the (Other-offensive-word) which YOU know-about, at the back of YOUR mind, is also offensive.(Relating here to Jade, Jo & Danielle+Jack.T) + Diary-Room warnings......

Then

The (N) word must be different?????

So, I say that a black person is no more important than an Indian person.

I also say that a Pakistani person is no more important than a Swedish person.

I say, we are all the same. Equal.....

But how can BB8 transmit that (N) word & YOU say, that the problems with this concern racism??

Please phone Ofcom & Channel 4 immediately Dr43%er.

Also

Please ask to speak to Andy Duncan, as he is happy to help any time.

Please phone ANYONE you like & please tell us what they say, as regards to displaying the totally uncut footage on Channel 4 for all of us to see.





nodisharmony