[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

You have the remain politicians to thank for that

Including TM

not really

if erg and dup backed it it would pass
so why these keen leavers are not doing that
go and blame them

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

You have the remain politicians to thank for that

Including TM

Yeah, totally the remainers fault, the leaver politcians are all so united in what they want brexit to be which is why they all voted the same way on the various brexit options.....Oh wait....

[Crimson Dynamo]

or do you mean other people who are not you?

[Smithy]

Starting to the think that the leave campaign made a lot of stuff up

[Livia]

Isn't it cute how remainers think they're such great researchers, so much better than anyone who disagrees with them. I mean, it doesn't matter who that person is with whom they're disagreeing, if their opinion is different then they're awful, stoooopid, right wing bigots.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

i would not try and pretend to know what swayed millions of people to vote leave or remain and i certainly would not call 17 million people illinformed

So you have no actual argument then? The amount of fake news, doctored footage and straight up lies that came from the Leave camp is staggering but your only response is that 'well, let's ignore all that and pretend that most voters are informed!'

Originally Posted by Livia

Isn't it cute how remainers think they're such great researchers, so much better than anyone who disagrees with them. I mean, it doesn't matter who that person is with whom they're disagreeing, if their opinion is different then they're awful, stoooopid, right wing bigots.

Again, prove to me that people are informed instead of going 'REEEE! REMAINERS!' I've put forth my argument, I've highlighted how prevalent fake news is especially regarding the leave campaign so if you have a counterpoint beyond crying about Remainers then by all means, Livia, offer it up.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Again, prove to me that people are informed instead of going 'REEEE! REMAINERS!'

Are you a member of kiwifarms by any chance?! Thats the only place I have ever seen that reeee thing when browsing some threads

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Are you a member of kiwifarms by any chance?! Thats the only place I have ever seen that reeee thing when browsing some threads

It's quite a common thing. It's usually used in response to people being ahem 'snowflakes' about social issues but I find it often suits the other side better.

[Crimson Dynamo]

actually probably all asked by journalists

[Twosugars]

Let's face it, leaving the EU does not make any economic sense, it's all about politics and visceral dislike of the EU. And some delusion about sovereignty. No country bound by any international agreements is fully sovereign.
But I'd rather work with and within Europe, our nearest neighbours, and decide things together than go it alone and have larger partners dictating things to me. Like it's happening now with the EU dictating to the UK. So much for the EU begging us for a deal It will be China and the US next.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

Let's face it, leaving the EU does not make any economic sense, it's all about politics and visceral dislike of the EU. And some delusion about sovereignty. No country bound by any international agreements is fully sovereign.
But I'd rather work with and within Europe, our nearest neighbours, and decide things together than go it alone and have larger partners dictating things to me. Like it's happening now with the EU dictating to the UK. So much for the EU begging us for a deal It will be China and the US next.

Is actually fair comment

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

Let's face it, leaving the EU does not make any economic sense, it's all about politics and visceral dislike of the EU. And some delusion about sovereignty. No country bound by any international agreements is fully sovereign.
But I'd rather work with and within Europe, our nearest neighbours, and decide things together than go it alone and have larger partners dictating things to me. Like it's happening now with the EU dictating to the UK. So much for the EU begging us for a deal It will be China and the US next.

The US have said if we screw up the border in Ireland there won't be a trade deal.

[reece(:]

Struggling to see the link between people believing lies from the campaign to people not knowing what they were voting for. There's a difference

[Cherie]

We are literally leaving a cohort where the UK is a big player to become the USAs bitch

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Cherie

We are literally leaving a cohort where the UK is a big player to become the USAs bitch

Well a wee club set up to protect German manufacturing and French Agriculture who look down their noses at us