[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Alf

You believe it's hate speech, but he believes that he's calling out murder.

I think both sides of the argument on this issue have strong cases.

Hate speech is free speech

Science disagrees with claims of murder.

Outside of the womb, a 6 week old foetus cannot sustain life and it's not a sentient being, it's a bundle of cells and nothing more. If something is not sentient or capable of sustaining life (as in, it won't die instantly) then it's not alive. Life begins at birth, pro-lifers are hypocrites that care more about controlling women's bodies than the children that would be brought into the world as a result of archaic laws like the Georgia law.

[lime]

Should also add Oliver.. Shapiro backtracked on insulting Arabs to saying he meant Palestestinans.But Hey he never spoke about them

[arista]

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by arista

Andrew Neil will be missed

[Alf]

Why are you so anti Ben Shapiro's religious beliefs?

How are you different to Tommy Robinson when he's anti somebody's religious beliefs?

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Alf

Why are you so anti Ben Shapiro's religious beliefs?

How are you different to Tommy Robinson when he's anti somebody's religious beliefs?

Tommy Robinson spreads hatred against all muslims, nobody here is spreading hatred against Jews. Once again you're ignoring the context to make silly claims that don't really achieve anything.

Shapiro is a twat that uses his religion as a shield and excuse. That's not hatred towards jews, that's just disliking one person who uses Judaism to validate his hateful opinions. If you think that's the same as Robinson spreading hatred then I'm not sure if anything can be said to help you understand.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Tommy Robinson spreads hatred against all muslims, nobody here is spreading hatred against Jews. Once again you're ignoring the context to make silly claims that don't really achieve anything.

Shapiro is a twat that uses his religion as a shield and excuse. That's not hatred towards jews, that's just disliking one person who uses Judaism to validate his hateful opinions. If you think that's the same as Robinson spreading hatred then I'm not sure if anything can be said to help you understand.

So what do you want to happen to Shapiro?

Locked up?
Capital punishment?
Have is mouth stitched up?
Make him sit at the back of the bus?
Freedom to say what he wants?

Was is it you want?

[lime]

Originally Posted by Alf

So what do you want to happen to Shapiro?

Locked up?
Capital punishment?
Have is mouth stitched up?
Make him sit at the back of the bus?
Freedom to say what he wants?

Was is it you want?

I personally would be happy with folk challenge his hate preaching.

i don't think he should be locked up.
Thankfully Andrew Neill did so ...and shock ..horror Shapiro melted

[Alf]

Originally Posted by lime

I personally would be happy with folk challenge his hate preaching.

i don't think he should be locked up.
Thankfully Andrew Neill did so ...and shock ..horror Shapiro melted

He does get challenged, all the time, day after day.

But you calling him a names like "hate preacher" on a Big Brother forum serves no purpose but to try and make yourself feel morally better than people.

Your name calling, isn't an argument.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Alf

So what do you want to happen to Shapiro?

Locked up?
Capital punishment?
Have is mouth stitched up?
Make him sit at the back of the bus?
Freedom to say what he wants?

Was is it you want?

What the hell are you raving about?

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

What the hell are you raving about?

Yes! that's the question I'm basically asking you.

[Alf]

And just to let you know, because you're blinded by your own ignorance, I'm far more of a fan of Andrew Neil, than I am Ben Shapiro, but I'm not a partizan witch-hunter who wants the blood and freedom taking away of people with opinions.

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by Alf

And just to let you know, because you're blinded by your own ignorance, I'm far more of a fan of Andrew Neil, than I am Ben Shapiro, but I'm not a partizan witch-hunter who wants the blood and freedom taking away of people with opinions.

We can have opinions on people with opinions
Nobody is taking his freedom or his blood, chill out

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

We can have opinions on people with opinions
Nobody is taking his freedom or his blood, chill out

They want his freedom and blood, not taking. Get things right if you're gonna butt in.

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by Alf

They want his freedom and blood, not taking. Get things right if you're gonna butt in.

What are you on about?
The only one coming up with this stuff is you.

[Matthew.]

(pokes nose in)

I just googled “Free speech” and this was one of the first things that came up

Freedom of Speech does NOT mean that a person can say whatever they want to say. Freedom of Speech means that someone's right to say something is protected within certain limits. A person may have to suffer consequences for saying some things, but they still have the right to say them. For example, it is against the law to yell, "FIRE," in a crowded place because someone may get injured. A person has the right to say it, but they also have the consequences.

[Alf]

Great! another wasted afternoon of conversation, just erased as easy as that. Thanks for that.

Do you wanna do some more censoring mods? seeing as you like it so much.

Post number 35. I am accused of being "busy hating people of colour"

I find that totally hurtful and insulting, let's show everybody you're not bias.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Alf

Great! another wasted afternoon of conversation, just erased as easy as that. Thanks for that.

Do you wanna do some more censoring mods? seeing as you like it so much.

Post number 35. I am accused of being "busy hating people of colour"

I find that totally hurtful and insulting, let's show everybody you're not bias.

So, it turns out it's ok with the mod's for Lime to accuse me of being busy hating Brown people.

Let's test out if it's ok for me to accuse forum members of doing something disgusting.

Let me choose my victim