[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Alf

Shatter away. I'm a big boy.

Nothing more for me to add, It's just not true. You can look it up yourself if you're interested.

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by Alf

You forgot the bit where the Nazis took away the citizens guns. That's quite key, because without their guns, the people couldn't defend themselves against authoritarianism.

Which side of the gun debate are you on again?

Bc that would have made all the difference

The nazis, like the far right today, try to capture minds first of all. Insidious propaganda and scapegoating of immigrants. All too familiar.
Some here already compare immigrant children to Jon Venables dont they Alfred

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

Bc that would have made all the difference

The nazis, like the far right today, try to capture minds first of all. Insidious propaganda and scapegoating of immigrants. All too familiar.
Some here already compare immigrant children to Jon Venables dont they Alfred

My point of bringing up Venables and Thompson was because everyone was having a go at Arista, telling him to have a heart and think of the children. You've read too much into it, not my fault.

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by Alf

My point of bringing up Venables and Thompson was because everyone was having a go at Arista, telling him to have a heart and think of the children. You've read too much into it, not my fault.

Whichever way you paint it what you did there was wrong

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Alf

You forgot the bit where the Nazis took away the citizens guns. That's quite key, because without their guns, the people couldn't defend themselves against authoritarianism.

Which side of the gun debate are you on again?

That kind of pro-gun bull**** is ridiculous. Citizens, regardless of the guns laws, can't feasibly fight off a military that has missiles, tanks and other assault vehicles and technology.

That unrealistic second amendment defense hasn't been applicable since the height of military technology was a godamn cannon.

As it's already been said though, it's wrong. You're just sipping the cool aid of people telling you what to think at this point.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

That kind of pro-gun bull**** is ridiculous. Citizens, regardless of the guns laws, can't feasibly fight off a military that has missiles, tanks and other assault vehicles and technology.

That unrealistic second amendment defense hasn't been applicable since the height of military technology was a godamn cannon.

As it's already been said though, it's wrong. You're just sipping the cool aid of people telling you what to think at this point.

Then speak your words oh wise one, and let me take the path that you send me on.

What is the meaning of life?

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Alf

Then speak your words oh wise one, and let me take the path that you send me on.

What is the meaning of life?

So you have nothing to add, as expected.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Honestly, a lot of the rhetoric of today's world is similar to that which was common during the time of the Nazi's rise and the appeasement of Germany.

'Concentration camps aren't death camps, the Nazis aren't killing anyone yet.'
'The US's immigration camps are not concentration camps, they aren't killing anyone yet.'

The dehumanisation of immigrants is so ****ing similar to what Jews went through that it's scary how close we are to history repeating itself.

No Way Dezzy.

[Tom4784]

Bolsonero and Trump for a start.

[Alf]

Ben Shapiro fan though. I'm definitely not one of them.

Granted, I do sometimes and have watched him and what he has to say, but by the sounds of it, so have you. But a supporter? I don't think so.

I most certainly laughed at him as Andrew Neil ripped him a new one.

[Parmy]

Nazis are bad..

But right wing today is nothing like the nazis of recent history.

[Kizzy]

I think our govt is toying with neo fascism, I've said for a while thst what brexit is about and the fixation on a no deal Brexit just confirmed it imo.

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Nazis are bad..

But right wing today is nothing like the nazis of recent history.

Prior to the last 4/5 years I'd have agreed with you completely. There has always been a far right presence, but they weren't in any way linked with modern day conservatism. However, in the last few years, we've seen Ukip force the conservatives to push a national referendum, we see concentration camps in the US, we've seen people on these very forums (who I woldn't consider Nazi's) talk about immigrants and refugees by using the very same terms used by the far right, and one member specifically talking about how the "re-education" camps in china were a good thing, and these are just a few examples. All of those things would have been unconscionable up until the last few years.

What people struggle to accept, is that Nazism wasn't day 1 - kill all the jews. In fact, there were arguments being made by jews at the time, that the Nazi's were only rhetoric and now that they'd got power they'd have to govern properly. These things creep, because if you told people of your plans from the off, then a majority of the people would be instantly turned off, so this incessant messaging about foreigners, others etc is all used as a way to condition.

Richard Littlejohn is the highest paid news columnist in the country, and he wrote one of the most Orwellian pieces after BJ pulled his prorogation stunt; he said he knew BJ was lying to the people, and he was glad he was doing it. Good, honest, hardworking people are just as susceptible to anyone as being brainwashed. We see highly educated people that know better joining religious cults, and yet people struggle often refuse to accept what is happening to themselves, and the hardening of their own beliefs towards other human beings.