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Old 05-01-2020, 09:44 PM #1
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But films or games can't make a person violent and no amount of twisting or clickbait on your part will change the fact that no such link exists.
Exactly.

The only thing Films, Video Games, or TV can do is maybe give the troubled person a method on how to attack someone, but that person would have to already be psychologically damaged to begin with.

For example Ammi playing GTA wouldn't turn her into a Prostitute loving Gangster.
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But that's the logic that's being used by some people on here, playing/watching violent content will turn you more aggressive/violent.

The question that needs to be asked is why do millions of people play GTA and have never committed a violent act in their lives? My Ammi comparison is an OTT statement to showcase that if she were to play GTA she wouldn't become violent because of it.
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For example Ammi playing GTA wouldn't turn her into a Prostitute loving Gangster.
She said she'd never go back to that life.
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Using such general models, media violence scholars now have a clear picture
of how media violence increases aggression in short and long term contexts.
Immediately after exposure to media violence, there is an increase in
aggressive behavior tendencies because of several factors. 1. Aggressive
thoughts increase, which in turn increase the likelihood that a mild or
ambiguous provocation will be interpreted in a hostile fashion. 2. Aggressive
affect increases. 3. General arousal (e.g., heart rate) increases, which tends
to increase the dominant behavioral tendency. 4. Direct imitation of recently
observed aggressive behaviors sometimes occurs.


Repeated media violence exposure increases aggression across the lifespan
because of several related factors. 1. It creates more positive attitudes,
beliefs, and expectations regarding use of aggressive solutions. 2. It creates
aggressive behavioral scripts and makes them more cognitively accessible. 3.
It decreases the accessibility of nonviolent scripts. 4. It decreases the
normal negative emotional reactions to conflict, aggression, and violence.


https://www.apa.org/science/about/psa/2003/10/anderson
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Using such general models, media violence scholars now have a clear picture
of how media violence increases aggression in short and long term contexts.
Immediately after exposure to media violence, there is an increase in
aggressive behavior tendencies because of several factors. 1. Aggressive
thoughts increase, which in turn increase the likelihood that a mild or
ambiguous provocation will be interpreted in a hostile fashion. 2. Aggressive
affect increases. 3. General arousal (e.g., heart rate) increases, which tends
to increase the dominant behavioral tendency. 4. Direct imitation of recently
observed aggressive behaviors sometimes occurs.


Repeated media violence exposure increases aggression across the lifespan
because of several related factors. 1. It creates more positive attitudes,
beliefs, and expectations regarding use of aggressive solutions. 2. It creates
aggressive behavioral scripts and makes them more cognitively accessible. 3.
It decreases the accessibility of nonviolent scripts. 4. It decreases the
normal negative emotional reactions to conflict, aggression, and violence.


https://www.apa.org/science/about/psa/2003/10/anderson
That's a great article.... From 2003, I guess the 17 years of further research into the matter that's shown no link to violence doesn't matter.

At the end of the day, aggressive people are aggressive, more so when you factor in competition. A non-violent person will never become violent because they have seen a film or played a game. No such link exists and scouring the internet because you are driven by the need to spite me will not change that.
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Virtual violence influences child development

Studies over decades have shown a link between exposure to media violence and
aggressive behavior and thoughts.


“This is settled science—studies have shown a connection between virtual violence and
real world aggression,” Christakis said. “Often times when this issue is presented in
media, we’ll see one person on TV taking a different perspective. But the science is clear
that there is a real world effect.”


The report cites research that shows the typical child will have seen 8,000 murders and
100,000 other acts of violence, including rape and assault, before middle school. Studies
have shown that exposure to violent content can lead to angry feelings and actual or
observed aggression.


“The media and gaming industry needs to produce children’s games and entertainment
that do not contain violence,” Christakis said. “To keep a game’s appeal and adrenaline
rush, game producers resort to intensifying violence and this is affecting our kids.”


He points out that glamorized virtual violence does not show the consequences of real
violence—victims who are injured or die as a result of violence and the devastating
impact this has on the victims’ families.


Christakis says the hopeful news is that when a child’s media diet is changed to feature
more positive content, the results are good.


“Research has shown that a child’s aggressive behavior decreases when violent media is
eliminated and replaced with positive content,” he said.


https://pulse.seattlechildrens.org/h...d-development/
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LT do you know the difference between an OpEd, a literature review, and a study? Because so far you've posted the first two but no actual study. I was actually interested in the first one until I realised I'd reached the bottom of the page and it contained no data at all. Not even one measly correlation graph . He also exposes bias multiple times in his intro.

The second one is literally just an opinion piece that's worth no more than a post on here.
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"You don't have to have your views grounded in science" is the antivax comparison though.
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"You don't have to have your views grounded in science" is the antivax comparison though.
You don't have to have your views on anything grounded in science could also be a religious comparison too couldn't it?
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You don't have to have your views on anything grounded in science could also be a religious comparison too couldn't it?
It could, but it's not really the same unless you're talking about things such as "the earth is flat" which are 100% false.

Are you saying anti-vaxxers are religious?

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It could, but it's not really the same unless you're talking about things such as "the earth is flat" which are 100% false.

Are you saying anti-vaxxers are religious?
Nope... I'm saying there is the concept of blind faith and the feeling that something is real for you even though there is no supporting evidence or scientific proof.
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Nope... I'm saying there is the concept of blind faith and the feeling that something is real for you even though there is no supporting evidence or scientific proof.
But, there's a difference between faith in something of which there is no supporting evidence and faith in something of which there is supporting evidence to the contrary. A belief in God is the former, an anti-vaxxer is the latter.
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I know someone who has a brand new mattress sitting in her living room unopened, cause she likes the groove she's made in her one through day upon day of being unable to move due to fibromalgi, even on an up day for her bi polar she still can't move ..I think it's her depression and the mattress making her feel less depressed...so the mattress is enabling her depression..

I should have got her chocolates for xmas..cause she ain't wanting the mattress moved for another month...

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I know someone who has a brand new mattress sitting in her living room unopened, cause she likes the groove she's made in her one through day upon day of being unable to move due to fibromalgi, even on an up day for her bi polar she still can't move ..I think it's her depression and the mattress making her feel less depressed...so the mattress is enabling her depression..

I should have got her chocolates for xmas..cause she ain't wanting the mattress moved for another month...
People who are depressed seeking out comfort in things doesn't make what they seek comfort in the problem. That's a ridiculous assertion.

In your example, the fibromalgi and bipolar are the causes of her depression. Not her mattress. The chronic pain is causing her depression, the mattress is alleviating it.

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People who are depressed seeking out comfort in things doesn't make what they seek comfort in the problem. That's a ridiculous assertion.

In your example, the fibromalgi and bipolar are the causes of her depression. Not her mattress. The chronic pain is causing her depression, the mattress is alleviating it.

Enabling it...she has a perfectly new one downstairs waiting.

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Enabling it...she has a perfectly new one downstairs waiting.
And you haven't given her a hand changing it as she struggles with chronic pain.
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My new mattresses are never as nice as the previous one until I've worn a groove into it of the possible "enablers" to point a finger at, that's really reaching...
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I prefer a firm mattress to one that you "sink" into.
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I prefer a firm mattress to one that you "sink" into.
we bought an EMMA mattress and have never looked back

Which recommended you know
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Which recommended you know
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