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Old 04-03-2020, 04:24 PM #26
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I've never heard him say homophobic stuff, however I think it was sketchy how he defended PewDiePie for using the N word .

But if Crowder is right wing ,then his behaviour makes sense. His videos are very one sided and biased. I have agreed with some of his stuff but it seems in favour of republicans .
I dip in and out with Crowder, I also agree with some but not all of what he said.

I didn't hear what he said in defence of PewDiePie, but my own opinion is that PDP should be able to say what he wants unless he calls for violence- if he loses sponsorships/subs/monetisation because of it, then it's his own stupid fault. I don't even know when PDP said the N-word, mind.
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I dip in and out with Crowder, I also agree with some but not all of what he said.

I didn't hear what he said in defence of PewDiePie, but my own opinion is that PDP should be able to say what he wants unless he calls for violence- if he loses sponsorships/subs/monetisation because of it, then it's his own stupid fault. I don't even know when PDP said the N-word, mind.
Crowder pretty much used the freedom of speech to defend PewDiePie, (it's been a while since I watched that particular video though) so I've probably missed alot of what he said.

But PDP was playing a video game and he shouted out in anger "what a effing N word" . How can anyone defend the context of that ? .

I'm so bored of people like him and Tana mongeu being let off for their behaviour. They'll always be popular
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Shhh..he is saving that for claims of child abuse.
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Imagine worrying about Biden's mind when trump is president
Why wouldn't you worry about both? Especially when one of them could be voted the leader of the free World in November.
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I refuse to click on any videos by Right Wing commentators that are aimed at farming clicks from gullible right wingers that want to be told what they want to hear.
Of course you're not gonna click on those videos. Because you're gonna stick to the videos you like, because you want to be told what you want to hear. Only difference is, you're not gullible, it's only the enemy who are.
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Plus Crowder is a homophobic piece of **** so he can choke.
Naturally, what else would he be?
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Naturally, what else would he be?
lol, I have no idea how he's seen as homophobic. The worst I can think of is he referred to someone from Buzzfeed/HuffPo/Vox/Whatever as a "lispy queer", when he did have a lisp and he self-identified as queer, so there's no homophobia there...
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lol, I have no idea how he's seen as homophobic. The worst I can think of is he referred to someone from Buzzfeed/HuffPo/Vox/Whatever as a "lispy queer", when he did have a lisp and he self-identified as queer, so there's no homophobia there..
That's like saying someone can't be racist if they call a black person the n-word because the black person in question uses the n-word
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That's like saying someone can't be racist if they call a black person the n-word because the black person in question uses the n-word
That's not the same thing , ' Queer 'is acceptable to use now . I guess it depends on context still though.

But as I said already he defended PewDiePie saying the N word which I think is messed up . Especially when PewDiePie said it in a hateful way.
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That's like saying someone can't be racist if they call a black person the n-word because the black person in question uses the n-word
Some people include Q (for queer) in the extended versions of LGBT, so it's not at all comparable to the n-word.
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Some people include Q (for queer) in the extended versions of LGBT, so it's not at all comparable to the n-word.
Most people put the Q in LGBT so it's ridiculous to compare it to the N word . If he used the F word then I could understand people getting upset .
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Of course you're not gonna click on those videos. Because you're gonna stick to the videos you like, because you want to be told what you want to hear. Only difference is, you're not gullible, it's only the enemy who are.
I don't watch any political commentators so try again.
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I don't watch any political commentators so try again.
You seem to know a hell of a lot about them, considering you don't listen to them. Where do you get your information on them from? Or is it just guess work?


There you go, I tried again. How did I do this time?

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I don't think that is true
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You seem to know a hell of a lot about them, considering you don't listen to them. Where do you get your information on them from? Or is it just guess work?


There you go, I tried again. How did I do this time?
You flopped as hard as you did last time, maybe harder because you're suggesting that you can't know something unless you experience it. That's fundamentally not true. I've seen clips of this loud moron covered in other stories, What he and the rest of the Right Wing Youtubers do is no different to the tactics of Fox News.

All these commentators are doing, Alf, is rinsing you for your clicks and laughing all the way to the bank. Easy money. If it weren't for the fact I have a soul, I'd do it too. The Right Wing are the easiest marks ever.

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I don't think that is true
I don't like having smoke blown up my arse, I have no interest in people telling me what I want to hear. I like to hear the facts, the undiluted facts and I have no interest in lining someone's pockets by clicking on their ****ty spin.

I make up my own mind based on the facts available, I don't discount numbers because they suit my views, I don't disregard experts and lambaste them for knowing more than me if their predictions aren't to my taste, I'll leave that **** to the Right Wing.
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You seem to know a hell of a lot about them, considering you don't listen to them. Where do you get your information on them from? Or is it just guess work?


There you go, I tried again. How did I do this time?



I think he has minions at his beck and call, team dezzy's or something
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You flopped as hard as you did last time, maybe harder because you're suggesting that you can't know something unless you experience it. That's fundamentally not true. I've seen clips of this loud moron covered in other stories, What he and the rest of the Right Wing Youtubers do is no different to the tactics of Fox News.

All these commentators are doing, Alf, is rinsing you for your clicks and laughing all the way to the bank. Easy money. If it weren't for the fact I have a soul, I'd do it too. The Right Wing are the easiest marks ever.



I don't like having smoke blown up my arse, I have no interest in people telling me what I want to hear. I like to hear the facts, the undiluted facts and I have no interest in lining someone's pockets by clicking on their ****ty spin.

I make up my own mind based on the facts available, I don't discount numbers because they suit my views, I don't disregard experts and lambaste them for knowing more than me if their predictions aren't to my taste, I'll leave that **** to the Right Wing.
So what if they do make videos to make money? Are they not allowed?

People make TV programmes and movies to make money, and they rinse people for money, and laugh all the way to the bank. What's the difference?

If people watch it, it's maybe because they enjoy watching it, just like you enjoy watching TV programmes and movies. If they're gullible, then surely we all are?

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I think he has minions at his beck and call, team dezzy's or something
Obsessed, much?

Also, I don't have minions, I don't sit around plotting against you or your friends because you occupy no time or space in my mind. Try it sometime instead of imagining I have some great feud with you when, in truth, I wouldn't notice if you stopped logging on.

You'll be much happier pretending I don't exist although you wouldn't be able to lash out at me and you would have no one but yourself to blame when you get infracted so I'm guessing you won't try to ignore me any time soon. Can't lose the person you blame everything on, I suppose.
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So what if they do make videos to make money? Are they not allowed?

People make TV programmes and movies to make money, and they rinse people for money, and laugh all the way to the bank. What's the difference?

If people watch it, it's maybe because they enjoy watching it, just like you enjoy watching TV programmes and movies. If they're gullible, then surely we all are?
Where did I say they weren't allowed?

They're making money from spreading misinformation and appealing to people's wilful ignorance. They're entitled to do so and I'm entitled to judge the **** out of them and the people who watch their ****.

Entertainment is entertainment, Marvel films aren't spreading misinformation about political matters and influencing how people vote. Misinformation is misinformation. making it out to be entertainment thus acknowledging it to be bull**** yet absorbing what's said in those videos as fact although you know it's not is grim.

Believing bull**** about reality is not comparable to being entertained by a piece of fiction.

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The american presidential system is so dodgy, we all know it. The choice of presidential candidates is a farce. Biden may well have serious health issues, just as Bernie does. You don't reach your 70's without some form of illness, and that's not being ageist, it's just a simple fact that as we get to be over 70 our bodies start to wear out. The over 70's should also be avoiding stress and I don't think being president of the USA is the right choice for someone of that age, indeed, I don't think they are doing it for their country, they are doing it for themselves.
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The american presidential system is so dodgy, we all know it. The choice of presidential candidates is a farce. Biden may well have serious health issues, just as Bernie does. You don't reach your 70's without some form of illness, and that's not being ageist, it's just a simple fact that as we get to be over 70 our bodies start to wear out. The over 70's should also be avoiding stress and I don't think being president of the USA is the right choice for someone of that age, indeed, I don't think they are doing it for their country, they are doing it for themselves.
There's still time for Hillary to be the surprise candidate.

Here she comes to save the day, mighty Hillary is on her way.
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There's still time for Hillary to be the surprise candidate.

Here she comes to save the day, mighty Hillary is on her way.


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There's still time for Hillary to be the surprise candidate.

Here she comes to save the day, mighty Hillary is on her way.
oh god no xD

do we really need another remake of Alien vs Predator?
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The american presidential system is so dodgy, we all know it. The choice of presidential candidates is a farce. Biden may well have serious health issues, just as Bernie does. You don't reach your 70's without some form of illness, and that's not being ageist, it's just a simple fact that as we get to be over 70 our bodies start to wear out. The over 70's should also be avoiding stress and I don't think being president of the USA is the right choice for someone of that age, indeed, I don't think they are doing it for their country, they are doing it for themselves.
That ship has sailed after the election of the 70 year old orange moron and narcissist
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