[Samm]

Originally Posted by Livia

When he was first elected he said he wanted to work together with the government and jointly end the emergency and swiftly as possible. I thought, well, that's good to hear. Since then, every time I've seen him he's been moaning about the government.

This isn't a war, a joint government is a horrible idea, there needs to be some form of opposition to challenge the government

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Samm

This isn't a war, a joint government is a horrible idea, there needs to be some form of opposition to challenge the government

He and that weasel of a man Jonathan Ashworth are simply undermining the work the government is doing .. they’re just destabilising things as everyone is wanting to know NOW when the restrictions are gonna be lifted or reduced... nobody can say at this stage .

I wish Boris was available as he’d squash these two in a moment whilst waving today’s death count in front of their faces .


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[arista]

Originally Posted by Samm

This isn't a war, a joint government is a horrible idea, there needs to be some form of opposition to challenge the government

Of Course
So long as its not just to get onto the news?

[Kizzy]

If we had done that with the spread then potentially we wouldn't be in the position we are?

[Kizzy]

Sorry for sounding clicbaity but these figures are terrifing

The number of death registrations involving the coronavirus (COVID-19) increased from 539 in Week 13 to 3,475 in Week 14. The number of deaths mentioning “Influenza and Pneumonia” on the death certificate increased from 1,863 in Week 13 to 2,367 in Week 14. Out of the deaths mentioning “Influenza and Pneumonia” in Week 14, 1,466 also mentioned COVID-19.

In Week 14, 35.7% of all deaths mentioned “Influenza and Pneumonia”, COVID-19, or both. In comparison, for the five-year average, 20.0% of deaths mentioned “Influenza and Pneumonia”. “Influenza and Pneumonia” has been included for comparison, as a well-understood cause of death involving respiratory infection that is likely to have somewhat similar risk factors to COVID-19.



https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulat...ding3april2020

[Kizzy]

Of course work with the govt moving forward on how best to manage the economy and recovery, but there's no reason not to challenge the initial response as it was seriously lacking.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Of course work with the govt moving forward on how best to manage the economy and recovery, but there's no reason not to challenge the initial response as it was seriously lacking.

He isn't doing that, he is asking about an exit strategy, and its far too early for that

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Cherie

He isn't doing that, he is asking about an exit strategy, and its far too early for that

He has done that, here is a link.

https://www.itv.com/news/2020-04-05/...tify-mistakes/

I've already commented with my thoughts on his demands for exit strategies, it's to create a smoke screen over the sexism and racism allegations imo.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Of course work with the govt moving forward on how best to manage the economy and recovery, but there's no reason not to challenge the initial response as it was seriously lacking.

We don’t know that the initial response was poor .. Sweden are still adamant that their way will be better in the long run .


Everyone is clambering for the restrictions to be reduced yet the countries who did lift the restrictions fairly quickly are currently seeing huge increases in infections/ deaths ..


It’s all up in the air ..




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[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Zizu

We don’t know that the initial response was poor .. Sweden are still adamant that their way will be better in the long run .


Everyone is clambering for the restrictions to be reduced yet the countries who did lift the restrictions fairly quickly are currently seeing huge increases in infections/ deaths ..


It’s all up in the air ..




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We do.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

We do.

Well we don’t ..

Nobody will know ANYTHING for sure until it’s all over with and the investigations are done .

Maybe even Sweden had/have the right idea after all ..


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[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Well we don’t ..

Nobody will know ANYTHING for sure until it’s all over with and the investigations are done .

Maybe even Sweden had/have the right idea after all ..


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We do, we went against WHO advise of test, test, test and we had Italy as a benchmark, boris also continued to ignore his own advice of social distancing and not shaking hands and it almost killed him. ..Whichever way you look at it we failed.

[Livia]

Hindsight is always 20/20.

[arista]

[Sir Keir wrote: “And let’s be honest, serious mistakes have been made."]

Sure
but can he not help out
in a better way?

[arista]

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[Oliver_W]

He should absolutely be holding the Gov to account, but it does feel too early to keep om about an exit strategy. Sure, we need to know eventually and it would be good to know if the Gov has at least provisional plans, but there's more important things to focus on at this point.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

He should absolutely be holding the Gov to account, but it does feel too early to keep om about an exit strategy. Sure, we need to know eventually and it would be good to know if the Gov has at least provisional plans, but there's more important things to focus on at this point.

Have you been away on holiday?

Boris has said he will reveal the basic details next Thursday


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[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Have you been away on holiday?

Boris has said he will reveal the basic details next Thursday


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Oh cool I've basically given up on caring about politics apart from environmentalism so things pass me by

[arista]

P. Corbyn , 73

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[arista]

[Labour general secretary Jennie Formby resigns
after bombshell antisemitism report leak
She said she applied for the role two years ago
"to support Jeremy Corbyn" but with new leader
Sir Keir Starmer in place "it is the right time to step down".]

https://news.sky.com/story/labour-ge...-leak-11982942

[arista]

todays PMQ's