[Crimson Dynamo]

[Nicky91]

we got all the evidence we need, all the video evidence


what do we care what the non-story/excuse of the cops is

[Ammi]

Jacob Blake was allegedly trying to break up a fight between two women when an officer held his shirt and shot him in the back...



A black man is in a serious condition after being shot seven times at close range by police in Wisconsin.

The man, identified by the state governor as Jacob Blake, was flown by helicopter to hospital on Sunday evening after being shot repeatedly in the back in the city of Kenosha.

Footage circulating on social media showed the incident with Mr Blake, who does not appear to be carrying a weapon, seen walking towards a car as two officers followed him with their guns drawn.

As Mr Blake opens the car door, one of the officers can be seen grabbing his vest and shooting him in the back.

Seven shots can be heard followed by the car's horn continuously beeping.

Civil rights lawyer Benjamin Crump, who represents George Floyd's family, said Mr Blake's three sons were in the car when he was shot.

Police said they had been called to a domestic incident at 5.11pm but gave no further details as to what led to the shooting that followed.

Witnesses said Mr Blake was trying to break up a fight between two women when the officers arrived.

The officers involved in the shooting have been placed on administrative leave, the Wisconsin Department of Justice said early on Monday.

Wisconsin state governor Tony Evers wrote in a tweet: “We stand against excessive use of force and immediate escalation when engaging with black Wisconsinites.”

Wisconsin's division of criminal investigation is looking into the shooting and said it will seek to “provide a report of the incident to the prosecutor within 30 days”.

A city-wide curfew was imposed until 7am on Monday after large protests marched down the streets throwing Molotov cocktails and bricks at police, with one officer reportedly injured by a brick.

A large rubbish truck parked on the road to prevent demonstrators marching towards the police station could be seen on fire before one of its tyres exploded, while people were seen kicking police cars and smashing their windows.

Kenosha's protests are the latest in a series of ongoing demonstrations against police brutality and racism since 25 May when George Floyd died after a white police officer knelt on his neck for eight minutes and 46 seconds.


https://uk.yahoo.com/news/black-man-...090900195.html

[Oliver_W]

The police in question have been put on leave while an investigation is being carried out. Apparently they didn't know the kids were in the car at the time - believable, it'd probably be hard to see small children in a big SUV from that far back.

It seems like Wisconsin was being burned for nothing... Jacob Blake's rap sheet shows sexual and domestic abuse, and what kind of father violently resists arrest in front of his children? Seven shots might have been excessive, but based on the information at hand the police needed to incapacitate him. But like TS said, they should have done it before he even reached the car.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

The police in question have been put on leave while an investigation is being carried out. Apparently they didn't know the kids were in the car at the time - believable, it'd probably be hard to see small children in a big SUV from that far back.

It seems like Wisconsin was being burned for nothing... Jacob Blake's rap sheet shows sexual and domestic abuse, and what kind of father violently resists arrest in front of his children? Seven shots might have been excessive, but based on the information at hand the police needed to incapacitate him. But like TS said, they should have done it before he even reached the car.

didnt they already try to taser him?

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

didnt they already try to taser him?

Maybe if he'd have stayed tasered then hundreds of thousands of dollars of destruction would have been averted...

[Liam-]

Bringing up someone’s irrelevant history is such a crass way of excusing blatant police brutality

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Liam-

Bringing up someone’s irrelevant history is such a crass way of excusing blatant police brutality

I wasn't excusing anything, I already said seven shots were excessive and he should have been put out of action sooner

But the information the police had was: arrested for violence in the past, had just assaulted them, was reaching for something in his car... Easy to see why they'd be just a little concerned, no?

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

I wasn't excusing anything, I already said seven shots were excessive and he should have been put out of action sooner

But the information the police had was: arrested for violence in the past, had just assaulted them, was reaching for something in his car... Easy to see why they'd be just a little concerned, no?

Yes he could and may have been going for a shot gun. People have no idea what the POlice go through on a daily basis, its astonishing how under appreciated they are!

[Ammi]

Jacob Blake: Black man paralysed from waist down after being repeatedly shot in back by police, father says...


https://news.sky.com/story/jacob-bla...-says-12056461

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by Ammi

Jacob Blake: Black man paralysed from waist down after being repeatedly shot in back by police, father says...


https://news.sky.com/story/jacob-bla...-says-12056461

I hope the cops who cause this suffering face the proper repercussions

[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Yes he could and may have been going for a shot gun. People have no idea what the POlice go through on a daily basis, its astonishing how under appreciated they are!

At least 7 bullets it would seem.

Surely... you can admit that 7 bullets in the back is excessive??

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

At least 7 bullets it would seem.

Surely... you can admit that 7 bullets in the back is excessive??

how many bullets would you fire to ensure a criminal would not be able to use a gun to kill you?

(exact number please)

[Tom4784]

Aww poor would be murderers has a hard job so they put 7 bullets in the back of an innocent man and paralysed him for life but that's okay because their job is hard and we should give them a hug instead of holding them accountable for their own actions.

Imagine having empathy for the violent criminal that paralysed this victim and then try to make out that it was the victim's fault he got shot in the back 7 times. That's a dangerous lack of morality there.

[Tom4784]

And absolutely none of that lessens the fact that the police committed an act of brutality. I'm so tired of the narrative of 'Oh, this black person has a record so that makes police brutality okay.'

Breonna Taylor never did anything wrong and she was executed in her sleep. Atatianna Jefferson was shot through her window as she played a game with her nephew etc. This man, regardless of his past was shot seven times in the back by a police officer that should know better.

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

And absolutely none of that lessens the fact that the police committed an act of brutality. I'm so tired of the narrative of 'Oh, this black person has a record so that makes police brutality okay.'

Did I say it did? Or was I simply answering Annie's question?

[thesheriff443]

It’s simple if police pulls a gun on you do as they say.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

It’s simple if police pulls a gun on you do as they say.

Breonna Taylor was asleep, Atatianna Jefferson was shot through her window before any demands were made of her. The police basically did a drive by on Tamir Rice. George Floyd and Eric Garner both told the police that they couldn't breath when the officers choked them to death.

It's not as simple as doing what the police say when they kill people in their beds and fire first on women and children before establishing the situation and acting accordingly.

Honestly, such a white privilege answer.

[Ammi]

...it’s also been reported in many sites that Jacob Blake was trying to break up a fight and that he had taken his children to the car to distance them from it../...to get them to safety if it continued to escalate etc...when police officers are called, I don’t think they are given any criminal history, if he has one, so why the 7 shots in the back at close range... any one shot being a potentially fatal one...I mean, oh he’s ‘got previous’...(...and surely that wouldn’t be known when the gun was aimed anyway...)...let’s shoot him and then again and again and again etc, just to be sure...only makes for a police officer and police force that doesn’t ‘protect and serve’...it just makes for something that’s very broken, sadly...in some States, obviously....


...slightly off topic, I know...but I recall when the child who fell into a gorilla cage...obviously there was much concern for the child and his family and poor Harambe was killed as well...but it went very quickly from that concern to...’his father has a past criminal history, he has ‘previous’, don't you know...’....I mean what bearing and why was that relevant in any way.....?...IF, Jacob Blake was committing any crime then that crime would be the only thing of any relevance...and potentially he had been given a ‘death sentence’....


...I think that the attorney representing him and his family is the same attorney who is representing George Floyd’s family...

[lewis111]

It’s very clear now that people are always going to find a reason why black people deserve to be murdered. Whether you’re a kid playing with a toy or a woman lying in your own bed the racists will dig and dig to find a justification for your murder

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by lewis111

It’s very clear now that people are always going to find a reason why black people deserve to be murdered. Whether you’re a kid playing with a toy or a woman lying in your own bed the racists will dig and dig to find a justification for your murder

Sounds like you're making things up - who has attempted to justify either of these?

[lewis111]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

Sounds like you're making things up - who has attempted to justify either of these?

The cases of Tamir Rice and Breyonna Taylor? A simple look through twitter or any discussion on the cases will show plenty of people saying “her boyfriend shouldn’t have shot” or “he shouldn’t have been playing with that toy gun”

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by lewis111

The cases of Tamir Rice and Breyonna Taylor? A simple look through twitter or any discussion on the cases will show plenty of people saying “her boyfriend shouldn’t have shot” or “he shouldn’t have been playing with that toy gun”

... okay? and I'll bet their replies are full of people calling them idiots.

No-one here has defending either killing, so acting all indignant about idiots on twitter is no different to attacking a strawman in this particular forum

[Denver]

White supremacist vigilantes have attack BLM protestors hooting a bunch of them and killing 2

[Denver]

If is believwd they are the Boogaloo boys and there is evidence that the police are working with them to attack and kill people