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Old 17-11-2020, 07:52 PM #26
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So he was willing to travel the world fighting against it, but couldn't be bothered to utter one word to condemn it in his party..


Why?

Because he believes the conspiracy .
He did condemn it. The EHRC actually criticised Corbyn for getting personally involved, as he interfered to try and get the complaints dealt with more efficiently and thoroughly.
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He did condemn it. The EHRC actually criticised Corbyn for getting personally involved, as he interfered to try and get the complaints dealt with more efficiently and thoroughly.
And what became of those complaints?
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And what became of those complaints?
You can read the whole thread on it. I still post in it.


Although the same EHRC that allowed the tories to do their own investigation into their own racism issues.

Not that impartial then

https://www.newsweek.com/equalities-...uality-1513338

Equalities and Human Rights Commissioner Failed to Declare Tory fundraising

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A commissioner at the U.K. equalities watchdog, which prides itself on impartiality, failed to declare her donation and fundraising activity for the Conservative Party, Newsweek International can reveal.

Pavita Cooper, who is a commissioner at the Equalities and Human Rights Commission (EHRC) made donations totaling £3,500 to the Conservative Party itself, according to the Electoral Commission's website.
I'm not even a labour supporter, especially these days but this isn't as simplistic as it looks.
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So you want me to go to another forum, then read another thread on the matter, and take that threads word over what's in this one...

I'm happy in tibb world thank you.
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So you want me to go to another forum, then read another thread on the matter, and take that threads word over what's in this one...

I'm happy in tibb world thank you.
What? There was a thread on the EHRC report. I think bots posted it, you definitely posted in it, and I still post in it. It's in sd.
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What? There was a thread on the EHRC report. I think bots posted it, you definitely posted in it, and I still post in it. It's in sd.
And?
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You can read it if you want...
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You can read the whole thread on it. I still post in it.


Although the same EHRC that allowed the tories to do their own investigation into their own racism issues.

Not that impartial then

https://www.newsweek.com/equalities-...uality-1513338

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I'm not even a labour supporter, especially these days but this isn't as simplistic as it looks.

You make good points Slim.

There's times recently with this government where the media is slated and presenters condemned for interviewing aggressively on issues to government Ministers.

The view thrown out the media are disgraceful.

However, the media character assassination of Corbyn is believed in full and the condemnation is not of the press and media but Corbyn.

You have made good and strong points on here.

I'm not a Corbyn fan myself, although his policies I welcomed.
However I've never believed he is an anti-Semite.

I do think he was ineffective in the anti-Semitism issue in the party.
I still think the word sorry, rather than regret would be wiser.

However, there are those who will believe all that was presented in the media re Corbyn.
As they did too on the Miliband's Father when that disgusting assassination of his character was done too.

As for Corbyn back in the party, I expected him to be.
Personally I think he is likely to possibly step down anyway at the next election.
Not that his voters in Islington would wish or want him to.

However too, I've given up any hope of reasoned debate re Corbyn on here or with most hard-line Con supporters I know.
Although there are the more reasoned Con supporters who think he got a really tough ride.

So best of luck to you Slim
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You make good points Slim.

There's times recently with this government where the media is slated and presenters condemned for interviewing aggressively on issues to government Ministers.

The view thrown out the media are disgraceful.

However, the media character assassination of Corbyn is believed in full and the condemnation is not of the press and media but Corbyn.

You have made good and strong points on here.

I'm not a Corbyn fan myself, although his policies I welcomed.
However I've never believed he is an anti-Semite.

I do think he was ineffective in the anti-Semitism issue in the party.
I still think the word sorry, rather than regret would be wiser.

However, there are those who will believe all that was presented in the media re Corbyn.
As they did too on the Miliband's Father when that disgusting assassination of his character was done too.

As for Corbyn back in the party, I expected him to be.
Personally I think he is likely to possibly step down anyway at the next election.
Not that his voters in Islington would wish or want him to.

However too, I've given up any hope of reasoned debate re Corbyn on here or with most hard-line Con supporters I know.
Although there are the more reasoned Con supporters who think he got a really tough ride.

So best of luck to you Slim
Thank you Joey, always good to get your opinion on things, especially as you're a lot closer to the centre than I am.

I understand where you're coming from, and I agree that he perhaps wasn't as vocal about it as he could have been at times. However the press allowed a real racist and security threat into number 10 without even a question, so I sort of understand why JC didn't want anymore labour/corbyn/anti semitism headlines every day.

It was a concerted attack because his policies were dangerous to the tax avoiders, to the wealthy, and the cruel. I don't think either of the main parties will be allowed to have a leader with his views in the next 50 years, and I think this whole anti semitism lie was the warning.

I'm gutted we missed out on a genuine opportunity to reshape British society into a more caring and tolerant place.
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I'm too busy looking for decent music to worry about that crusty **** atm, but thanks.
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I'm too busy looking for decent music to worry about that crusty **** atm, but thanks.
Like I said, I knew it was an attempt to get a reaction. Happy song hunting.
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Does it really matter? In terms of the wider picture he was pretty much done anyway; he wasn't invited into the Shadow Cabinet, and the ones close to him are all gone, so just let him sit in the backbenches, who cares
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Wrong...like the posts showed.
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Thank you Joey, always good to get your opinion on things, especially as you're a lot closer to the centre than I am.

I understand where you're coming from, and I agree that he perhaps wasn't as vocal about it as he could have been at times. However the press allowed a real racist and security threat into number 10 without even a question, so I sort of understand why JC didn't want anymore labour/corbyn/anti semitism headlines every day.

It was a concerted attack because his policies were dangerous to the tax avoiders, to the wealthy, and the cruel. I don't think either of the main parties will be allowed to have a leader with his views in the next 50 years, and I think this whole anti semitism lie was the warning.

I'm gutted we missed out on a genuine opportunity to reshape British society into a more caring and tolerant place.
Thank you Slim.

I think you'd find if I talked with you that I'm much more to the left now.

I've gone just about full turnaround from when I was in my mid teens.

I really liked and wanted Corbyn's policies to be in place.
In fact, I've said it before on here, when canvassing in December, people overall liked his policies.

They didn't however believe they could be done in one term.
To be fair to John McDonnell, he did try to say they were hoped to be achieved over 2 terms of government.

I agree, it's sad that opportunity was missed which is why I wished Labour had put forward an easier to follow brexit policy.
Because sadly, it was in a big part the brexit policy Labour presented which we just couldn't get through to voters.
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Corbyn's immediate response to the EHRC findings was pretty crappy, but I think it came from a place of stupidity rather than malice.
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He has nothing to apologise for and this slander campaign is an absolute disgrace everyone involved looks utterly unhinged
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Ohhh apparently it's only his party membership which has been reinstated, not his whip as a Labour MP. that decision lies with Sir Keir. I wonder if he's likely to give him it back


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Who cares about this flop aside from the right wingers that still froth at the mouth over him because they are addicted to their own outrage? He was a failure and he's best forgotten.

Honestly, people who hate Jeremy Corbyn and keep bringing him up are his biggest fans.
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a rat always finds it way back inside. Labour should have taken a more permanent measure.
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Streuth, that irrelevant old fossil isn't worth a mutiny over, especially when Labour finally has something of an effective leader now...

He WAS potentially a decent leader but he’s lost all credibility by wimping out on his first big decision . How can anybody trust him now ( die-hard Labour followers aside ) .


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the executive played it smart, they put the big decision back in Keirs lap. Which every way he chooses to go, he is going to annoy a lot of people
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