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Stay at Home for 14 days if infected Stop Travel No Social Contact for 12 weeks most vulnerable "As the number of cases of Covid-19 cases rose to 114 in India, the government ordered a shutdown across the capital Delhi from Tuesday. If it takes off there they are ****ed." Boris Johnson reversed course on the UK's unconventional "rapidly build herd immunity" approach after advisers discovered in recent days that hundreds of thousands of people would die 17/03/20 "yesterday I was thinking a bit of Fear the Walking Dead...how it’s (kinda) everything as normal at the beginning and then bit by bit, the changes start to happen" covid-19 now considered ''airborne'' by WHO A week is a long time in a coronavirus pandemic. Within days of Boris Johnson and his advisers announcing that anyone with symptoms of a cold should stay at home for seven days but otherwise live life as normal, the prime minister came out with a series of bombshells that will effectively confine most of the population to their homes now we have scenario 2 takes things much further, adopting all the measures except closing schools and universities. And school closures probably also on the cards before too long. The bad news is that although it will keep death rates down to 20,000 or possibly just a few thousand (yikes weren't they wrong looking back!!!) we are looking at these social curbs through to July or August – and even when the brakes are taken off, they may have to be slammed back on again. The virus will not have disappeared and could resurge. Only a small proportion of the population will have been infected, recovered and become immune. The government’s earlier hopes that it could rely on large proportions – maybe 60% – of the population getting ill, getting better and becoming immune to build up some herd immunity in the UK population are dashed by this strategy, which many experts thought was dangerous anyway "UK is potentially entering a full lockdown, my work just recieved word that we are to close until at the very least May" "Herd immunity without vaccines is useless and isn't a fact. That's why the human species developed zero herd immunity against small pox etc, until vaccines came along to actually provide the immunity." "According to The Guardian , the coronavirus will drag on till spring 2021" (Erm try autumn 2021 at the least!!) "A temporary heavy shut-down for a month maximum might be sensible to give a bit of space to plan, but it seems like a lot of people's idea for a plan is "shut everything down indefinitely and pray for a vaccine". At some point there has to be a concession that this is not a workable plan. Being optimistic it will be 12 - 18 months until there's a working vaccine. If you want to try a full social and economic shut down for a year and a half I guess go for it... ... There'll be no one left to vaccinate" "There is no secret option C where we somehow magically halt the spread of a virus that no one is immune to and there is no vaccine for, by all staying at home for a year" A leading scientist behind the modelling of the spread of the coronavirus has said that shutting schools would reduce the transmission of the disease, as pressure grows on the government to introduce closures. Prof Neil Ferguson, of Imperial College London and director of the MRC Centre for Global Infectious Disease Analysis, said that while it was not fully understood whether children transmitted the virus in the same way as other illnesses, school closures was a measure that could have an effect. UK Airports to Shut down in weeks (On reflection this should have been done a hell of a lot sooner!!) Chancellor to unveil 'significant' rescue package for businesses hit by COVID-19 "suppression is the only viable strategy at the current time". It is hoped deaths could be limited to the thousands or tens of thousands. The government has always said it is following the science and the science has changed profoundly. Hence, we should be waving goodbye to pubs, clubs and theatres, work from home and isolate whole households if any one person becomes sick Schools across England are announcing full or partial closures because of staff shortages, suggesting that widespread closures and government intervention may not be far off. Sir Patrick says he thinks it would be “extraordinary” to have a vaccine any sooner than a year for now, but stresses that progress is being made. "What about kids on free meals. Kids at home cost money as they are always eating" All UK schools to close on Friday "they want schools to nursemaid the kids of key workers" Mr Williamson said that when school gates in England close on Friday they will not reopen for the foreseeable future. there will still be a skeleton operation so that the children of key workers can still be looked after to enable their parents to continue to work. "Children who get free dinners will get looked after also vunerable children" "I'm sure when or if we need to go into lockdown then they will act on it at the right time" "I do expect it to die down before the summer though" "Anyone heard Prince Phillip has died? , not from corona, load of bs I imagine" "People are putting all over social media that army is being deployed/troops stationed around towns ready for a complete lockdown tomorrow" 19/03/20 "school teachers are expected to work through their Easter holidays to babysit kids at school" "Boris Johnson confirmed today. No Lockdown" The UK government has ruled out banning people from leaving or entering London. It also played down the prospect of shutting down the transport network in the capital, despite the closure of dozens of Underground stations "Johnson PM is not closing Pubs /Bar's and not doing a Lockdown." "a lockdown would do more harm than good." The Queen has issued a message to the UK people on the coronavirus outbreak, saying the nation is “entering a period of great concern and uncertainty”. The 93-year-old praised the work of scientists, medics and emergency staff, but added that everyone has a "vitally important part to play". She added: “Many of us will need to find new ways of staying in touch with each other and making sure that loved ones are safe. I am certain we are up to that challenge. "You can be assured that my family and I stand ready to play our part.” Major UK hotel chains are in discussions with the government about turning their properties into temporary hospitals to provide the NHS with emergency bed space or staff accommodation. Hancock said a massive effort was under way to deliver personal protective equipment to NHS staff and social care providers. Overnight we’re going to get 150 hospitals the next pack of protective equipment that they need. We’ve got all this in storage in case there’s a pandemic like this and there are literally lorries on the road right now. Some hospitals will get it overnight tonight and then the rest will get their next load before the end of the weekend." 20/03/20 Boris says we can turn the tide in 12 weeks! Lockdown on Bars , Pubs and Gyms, Leisure Centres, Theatres All over the UK From tonight. |
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You may come across a post I made soon jake.
About the owner of my local pub collapsing of covid in the doctors, and his son being on itv news as one of the first to lose someone to covid... A little follow up on that story. It was a heart attack, brought on by covid. And the son that was on the tv has been arrested in this encrypted phone sting for importing.large amounts of cocaine.. Rylan clarkes home town as well, so he will know simon, as he ran the pub with his dad and it was next door to the one rylan used to work in when rylan worked as a barman here. |
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Search the railway tavern, stanford le hope on google, check the reviews and the one that mentions an old shuffling barman is Gino, the old man that died. He treated me well and always made me welcome. Unlike most around here. |
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Part 3
Lockdown confusion. Are we allowed to walk? And so begins the clapping into the air! |
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"i think a lot of people will have to re-consider their opinion on Boris, so many, including myself thought he didn't care, that he was only driven by his own ego ... i'm certainly changing my opinion" 21/03/20 "Are places of worship being put in lockdown? It'll be interesting to see the reactions if the Mosques are told to go into lockdown." "today the parks, carparks etc have been full, kids running around everywhere playing out together, parents standing around chatting" 22/03/20 "I did go for a walk this morning (government guidelines say it's ok)" A group of almost 4,000 NHS workers in the UK have pleaded with the prime minister, Boris Johnson, to ensure they have adequate protective equipment to deal with the coronavirus crisis. In an open letter to The Sunday Times, the medics have called on Johnson to “protect the lives of the life-savers” and resolve the “unacceptable” shortage of protective equipment. The group said many medical workers are “putting their lives on the line every day” by treating coronavirus patients without appropriate protection, and they called on the prime minister to ensure an adequate supply of masks, safety glasses, gloves, aprons and protective suits. Intensive care doctors and anaesthetists have told us they have been carrying out the highest-risk procedure, putting a patient on a ventilator, with masks that expired in 2015 Boris Johnson has tweeted asking everyone to stay at home and not visit vulnerable mums in person this Mothers Day. The chancellor, Rishi Sunak, is facing mounting pressure to extend the coronavirus bailout to include the UK’s five million self-employed workers 23/03/20 "I do believe Boris is very capable. He can and will get tough really soon if these people continue to ignore him" Ear, nose and throat surgeons say losing your sense of smell could be used as a key clinical indicator in otherwise symptom-free carriers of Covid-19. Wuhan eases coronavirus lockdown Wuhan, the centre of the coronavirus outbreak in China, has begun to loosen its two-month lockdown on citizens as more countries issued new restrictions to contain the pandemic.. Matt Hancock said stricter rules such as curfews or constraints on movement could come into place “very soon” and urged people still socialising or going to holiday locations to “stop it, and if you don’t stop it then we’re going to have to take more measures”. He took a much tougher line than the prime minister on those defying social distancing rules, saying people carrying on as usual were being “incredibly unfair to go and socialise in the way we have seen”. (Pffft hypocrite!!) UK strategy likely to cause 35,000-70,000 excess deaths The truth is that [Boris Johnson’s] performance so far has been chequered. Since the start he has appeared behind the curve. Considerable time that could have been spent preparing for the crisis appears to have been squandered. The World Health Organisation first warned of the risk of a deadly global pandemic in mid-January, by which point the coronavirus was spreading rapidly in China and parts of Asia. Yet the government spent much of February apparently distracted with fights with some of Britain’s institutions, including the civil service, the judiciary and the BBC. Even at the time many questioned why the prime minister disappeared from view for a week in the middle of the month to his grace-and-favour home in Kent. He did not preside over his first Cobra meeting to discuss the crisis until March 3. Even as the scale became apparent, Mr Johnson’s response to it has been uneven. For the most of the first half of March, the official advice was simply to wash one’s hands. On March 12, as countries across Europe and the world closed schools, restaurants, bars and shops and introduced lockdowns and travel bans, the government merely advised that those ill with coronavirus symptoms should self-isolate for seven days Doctors including medics working in A&E who are trapped abroad after taking work trips and holidays abroad are desperate to join colleagues at home but say the Foreign Office and local embassies have been of no help Six ambulances have had their tyres deliberately punctured in Kent "I've just heard a woman in a Tesco's had the last pack of toilet rolls and a bloke came along grabbed the pack off her and coughed in her face, his wife laughed" Lockdown finally announced Boris Johnson has done an emergency announcement with police enforcement "he said, in three short weeks things could be relaxed as long as we take this seriously." initially last for the three weeks from 23 March, at which point the Government will look at them again and relax them if the evidence shows this is possible. 24/03/20 Gove does not rule out lockdown rules getting even tighter after three weeks Michael Gove, the Cabinet Office minister, has been giving a series of interviews this morning. Here are the key points. Gove only partially rejected claims that the government had acted too late, saying that this would be for others to judge in the future. Sadiq Khan, the mayor of London, told LBC this morning that he argued at the Cobra emergency committee meeting that construction workers should be told to stay away from work, but that he was over-ruled by Boris Johnson. "This lockdown is miserable" "Its day 1" "I'm cautiously optimistic that the rate of it spreading may well have peaked," 25/03/20 China’s tough lockdown and social distancing measures in Wuhan and other provinces appear to have successfully ended coronavirus infections and may chart a route back to normal life. UK coronavirus mass home testing to be made available 'within days' Thousands of 15-minute home tests for coronavirus will be delivered by Amazon to people self-isolating with symptoms or will go on sale on high street within days, Vets are giving ventilators usually used on animals to the NHS to help with equipment shortages. 26/03/20 Supermarkets to only let 10 people in at a time Security guards are even being drafted in to the nation's food retailers, to enforce social distancing during the coronavirus epidemic and ensure a one in one out policy in shops which are at capacity. Loss of smell and taste should be added to Covid-19 symptoms, says doctors In the current climate, anyone with a positive test for Covid-19 will certainly be known to clinical staff looking after them: if any of these patients dies, staff will have to record the Covid-19 designation on the death certificate — contrary to usual practice for most infections of this kind. There is a big difference between Covid-19 causing death, and Covid-19 being found in someone who died of other causes. Making Covid-19 notifiable might give the appearance of it causing increasing numbers of deaths, whether this is true or not. It might appear far more of a killer than flu, simply because of the way deaths are recorded. Clearly, the various lockdowns will slow the spread of Covid-19 so there will be fewer cases. When we relax the measures, there will be more cases again. But this need not be a reason to keep the lockdown: the spread of cases is only something to fear if we are dealing with an unusually lethal virus. That’s why the way we record data will be hugely important. Unless we tighten criteria for recording death due only to the virus (as opposed to it being present in those who died from other conditions), the official figures may show a lot more deaths apparently caused by the virus than is actually the case. "Can I ask has anyone heard that we're on lockdown for 6 to 12 months" "we will not be in lock down for 12 months, no way. The country would be bankrupt and people would have starved to death. We may be in lockdown for 6 weeks, but it will not be longer than that because people would not tolerate a lock down longer." "A 6 month lock down is highly unlikely and a year is frankly impossible." "People seem to think that a much longer one is safe or a good idea. You won't be able to feed your family. You will have no access to modern healthcare of any kind. You will be lucky if basic amenities like phone, gas and electricity supplies continue to function properly. Millions would die in the UK alone, tens of millions would end up in permanent absolute poverty. Not to mention the psychological effect of a 12 month lockdown." "a virus doesn't last deadly that long, the fact if we were on lockdown for an entire year the economy would collapse entirely" "Is anyone doing the clap for NHS at 8? From doors, balconies and windows" "Did anyone else clap? I did" "it's nice people are doing it but i think supermarket workers deserve the same appreciation as well." "That was incredible! Every single household was out on my street cheering and clapping and the noise in the distance was huge. Proud moment." |
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So the next part involves the care home chaos. The lack of PPE due to government failings. Boris catching covid. And what are China up to??
27/03/20 the government is still not explicitly outlawing driving somewhere but is obviously trying to discourage people from making unnecessary journeys. stay local and use open spaces near to your home where possible – do not travel unnecessarily you should only go outside alone or with members of your own household keep at least 2 metres apart from anyone outside your household at all times gatherings of more than two in parks or other public spaces have been banned and the police will enforce this Buckingham Palace today announced that this year’s Trooping the Colour - the annual military parade to mark the Queen’s official birthday -will now “not go ahead in its traditional form”. the Department of Health dismissed calls for providing NHS staff with certain protective gear – now needed for the coronavirus pandemic – in 2017 because stockpiling it was too expensive A temporary mortuary is to be opened at Birmingham airport in preparation for a predicted rise in the number of fatalities from coronavirus in the region. Work has begun on the site, which will initially be able to hold 1,500 bodies, although it will be expanded to hold more. State governors are crying out for federal help, not for themselves but for the people they represent: the nurses and doctors who need protective equipment and testing kits, the patients who need ventilators. But instead of leaping to their aid, Trump tells the governors it’s their responsibility, even though they have a fraction of the procurement power of the US government – adding that if they want help, they’d better grovel. “It’s a two-way street,” Trump said this week. “They have to treat us well.” PM FORCED INTO ISOLATION 28/03/20 The number of confirmed cases of coronavirus around the world has now passed 600,000. However, with many countries, including the UK, now only testing the most-serious cases, the true extent of infections is likely to be much greater. The prospect of weeks trapped at home has seen Britons embark on unlikely shopping sprees as they create home offices and gyms but also embrace hobbies ranging from dressmaking to jigsaw puzzling and growing their own veg. British industry has thrown its weight behind the fight against Covid-19 in a wartime-style effort to churn out protective masks, hand sanitiser and medical ventilators. A raft of firms across the country, in sectors from manufacturing to fashion, are setting up emergency operations that often involve striking out into unfamiliar territory. experts have said lockdown is on course to cut the number of deaths expected down to 5,700 from what was originally expected 260k A crowdfunder to raise money for personal protective equipment in British hospitals has reached £400,000. The fundraising effort was launched by a group of NHS doctors and a GP to source PPE “for those who need it the most”. The group originally set a £200,000 target, but this was met in 48 hours. Boris Johnson, the UK’s prime minister, is set to warn British citizens that the worst of coronavirus is yet to come, and that tougher measures may be necessary. The country’s 30m households will receive a letter from the prime minister including the warning, along with details of the government’s orders on social distancing, symptoms and handwashing. It comes as the UK braces for a surge in coronavirus cases. Northern Ireland gets tougher restrictions Gatherings of more than two people have been banned in Northern Ireland, and anyone who can work from home must do so, authorities have announced. Authorities will have the power to enforce restriction of movement and social distancing in Northern Ireland, in a deal agreed by Stormont executive. The measures will come into force at 11pm on Saturday night, and enable authorities to hand out fines up to £5,000. The regulations also give the authorities the power to close certain premises and prohibit anyone from leaving home without a reasonable excuse. "apparently the UK is expecting the death toll to rise to 20,000 by the end" "I don't want to bring people down any further, but the 20k is seen as an optimistic figure" 29/03/20 UK lockdown to be in place for 'significant period' Michael Gove has said the peak of the coronavirus is dependent on people’s actions and that the lockdown will remain in place for a significant period. "It’s difficult to know precisely [when the UK hit the peak of the coronavirus outbreak]. It depends on the action all of us take. if we practice the social distancing measures. If we follow the rules the government has outlined, if we follow that good scientific advice, then we can delay the infection rate and that gives our NHS the chance to become more resilient. Care home managers are refusing to accept elderly people discharged from NHS hospitals owing to coronavirus fears, and one has said government-issued protective equipment for residents and staff is “completely useless”. NHS trusts have been trying to discharge patients to free up capacity. Testing for the virus is not a requirement under discharge guidance issued by the government last week A senior director at a London acute trust, who asked not to be named, told the Health Service Journal: “There’s a real problem with private care homes refusing to take patients back unless they’ve been tested for Covid-19. But [testing] is not the national guidance currently and there just aren’t enough testing kits to do it. Another acute sector director in north-west England said: “We need care homes to be really robust. We’ve been hearing from colleagues that nursing homes won’t accept their residents back after they’ve been discharged from hospital, unless they’ve been fully swabbed [tested] for coronavirus. This is not the national guidance, and we aren’t able to do that right now. This could cause a huge issue.” On Saturday the health secretary, Matt Hancock, wrote an open letter of thanks to social care workers. Hancock, who is in isolation after testing positive for Covid-19, said the government was committed to doing “whatever is needed” for social care and the NHS, including allowing workers from both sectors free parking in council-owned spaces “Whilst many people are now staying at home, I know that is not an option for most of you as your work caring for others cannot be done from home,” he wrote. “We will do all we can to make your lives easier during this period, including, for example, making parking on council-owned on-street spaces and car parks free for those who work in social care. We are committed to doing whatever is needed; that promise applies just as much to social care as it does for the NHS.” "Lockdown now until June" "What?!" "Where is that from?" "Source?" UK textile firms say they could have begun making the protective equipment NHS staff so desperately need 10 days ago, when @cabinetofficeuk first contacted them. Yet the govt is yet to place a single order. 30/03/31 Another suspected casualty of Covid-19 in the British government has emerged, the prme minister’s senior adviser, Dominic Cummings. A temporary emergency hospital could open at the Scottish exhibition centre in Glasgow to cope with a surge in critical coronavirus cases in Scotland, Nicola Sturgeon has announced. The first minister said the so-called Nightingale hospital would be on standby, with a first tranche of 300 beds being installed and a potential total capacity of an extra 1,000 beds if needed. It could be become operational in a fortnight, she said, but they hoped it would not be necessary 01/04/20 Only 15% of NHS staff have been tested 02/04/20 LBC Live reporting Bloomberg Reporters are saying China is not giving the true amounts of Deaths or infected There are 1.5 billion people in China, and nearly 60 million (basically the whole population of the UK) in Hubei province alone Given that we now know that Covid-19 spreads relatively easily in the community, I find it... Far fetched The big question of course is, did they ever really get to "zero new cases". I personally think it's BS, and part of a massive-scale economic race that's playing out on the sidelines while we're all focused on the virus itself. Don't Forget that Great China Doctor that found about Covid 19 in China was Silenced and sacked he Died a Hero of Covid 19. China has concealed the extent of the coronavirus outbreak in its country, under-reporting both total cases and deaths it’s suffered from the disease, the U.S. intelligence community concluded in a classified report to the White House The outbreak began in China’s Hubei province in late 2019, but the country has publicly reported only about 82,000 cases and 3,300 deaths The reality is that we could have been better off if China had been more forthcoming. long before the world learned in December that China was dealing with this, and maybe as much as a month earlier than that, that the outbreak was real in China. While China eventually imposed a strict lockdown beyond those of less autocratic nations, there has been considerable skepticism toward China’s reported numbers, both outside and within the country. The Chinese government has repeatedly revised its methodology for counting cases, for weeks excluding people without symptoms entirely, and only on Tuesday added more than 1,500 asymptomatic cases to its total. Stacks of thousands of urns outside funeral homes in Hubei province have driven public doubt in Beijing’s reporting. China isn’t the only country with suspect public reporting. Western officials have pointed to Iran, Russia, Indonesia and especially North Korea, which has not reported a single case of the disease, as probable under-counts. Others including Saudi Arabia and Egypt may also be playing down their numbers. Because of the Lack of Testing UK will remain in Lockdown Only 30 new British-built ventilators will be delivered to the NHS next week to treat coronavirus patients, the government has admitted. Cabinet office minister Michael Gove told a press conference on Tuesday that the "first of thousands" of new devices manufactured in the UK would be sent to the front line next week but he did not specify how many would be in the first delivery. Officials admitted on Wednesday that the first batch will only include 30 ventilators, with hundreds more expected in the coming weeks. The NHS currently has around 8,000 ventilators to treat coronavirus patients but another 30,000 devices will be needed to cope with the expected peak of the outbreak in April. |
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