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Tom4784 · 24-09-2021, 12:07 PM

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Beso · 24-09-2021, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy

People who supported brexit were actually just supporting better tax treatment for the rich. You act like this is some great movement of independence but you voted to lick the feet of the rich and to put everyone's rights at risk. Well done. Be sure to lick inbetween the toes, you don't want to make your masters mad!

Maybe alfs rich as well.

user104658 · 24-09-2021, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Alf

Do we need those unelected rich people to hold our hands and do things and organise things for us.

Are us people in the UK really that incapable of functioning.

How come other non EU countries can function, but we're incapable? What's so special about us?

The problem isn't "not having the EU" or being unable to organise it, it's that we WERE in the EU for so long and then, on top of that, that the UK government failed to properly prepare for Brexit once they knew it was happening.

It's not that we "can't" have enough UK-based HGV drivers... it's just that we currently don't. A large chunk of our HGV capacity was staffed by European drivers who now no longer want to haul in the UK because there's so much red tape it isn't worth it for them. Yes we will EVENTUALLY overcome that blip but in the meantime, pretending it isn't a big (and increasing) problem doesn't do anyone any good.

Even the most ardent Brexit supporter should be pissed off about situations like this - we had years to address these upcoming problems between the Brexit vote and the actual implementation of Brexit. Years to consider the lack of HGV drivers. Years to consider the lack of Nursing staff, etc... the government continually kicked those issues into the long grass, pretending it wasn't going to be a problem. And here we are, late 2021... it is becoming a problem. We don't need them to be having a focus on training up more HGV drivers "now" - we needed them to do that as soon as we knew we'd be losing workers from the EU. 5 years ago.

Alf · 24-09-2021, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

The problem isn't "not having the EU" or being unable to organise it, it's that we WERE in the EU for so long and then, on top of that, that the UK government failed to properly prepare for Brexit once they knew it was happening.

It's not that we "can't" have enough UK-based HGV drivers... it's just that we currently don't. A large chunk of our HGV capacity was staffed by European drivers who now no longer want to haul in the UK because there's so much red tape it isn't worth it for them. Yes we will EVENTUALLY overcome that blip but in the meantime, pretending it isn't a big (and increasing) problem doesn't do anyone any good.

Even the most ardent Brexit supporter should be pissed off about situations like this - we had years to address these upcoming problems between the Brexit vote and the actual implementation of Brexit. Years to consider the lack of HGV drivers. Years to consider the lack of Nursing staff, etc... the government continually kicked those issues into the long grass, pretending it wasn't going to be a problem. And here we are, late 2021... it is becoming a problem. We don't need them to be having a focus on training up more HGV drivers "now" - we needed them to do that as soon as we knew we'd be losing workers from the EU. 5 years ago.

You can be pi55ed off about things, but to blame it on brexit is just taking short cuts, the easy way out, making excuses.

There's swings and roundabouts.

Tom4784 · 24-09-2021, 12:10 PM

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user104658 · 24-09-2021, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Alf

You can be pi55ed off about things, but to blame it on brexit is just taking short cuts, the easy way out, making excuses.

There's swings and roundabouts.

But there is no other route in this case - the HGV driver shortage is linked to Brexit, there's no two ways about that. You can either blame it on Brexit happening at all (which would be a "Remainer" stance), or on the failure of the government to adequately prepare for leaving the EU once the vote had happened (the "Brexiteer" stance) as they had 4+ years to do this, and failed, they're only just trying to address it now.

There's just no way to claim that the UK's current haulage problems are not Brexit-related.

Tom4784 · 24-09-2021, 11:46 AM

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arista · 24-09-2021, 07:41 AM

[Motorists told to 'carry on as normal' when buying
fuel after BP shuts some petrol stations]

https://news.sky.com/story/motorists...tions-12416215

Crimson Dynamo · 24-09-2021, 07:58 AM

didnt i hear its like at a few forecourts down south?

The papers love this new narrative of fear now that they have spent on covid

arista · 24-09-2021, 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

didnt i hear its like at a few forecourts down south?

The papers love this new narrative of fear now that they have spent on covid

Yes BP said its 5.

Tesco and others also hit.

thesheriff443 · 24-09-2021, 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

didnt i hear its like at a few forecourts down south?

The papers love this new narrative of fear now that they have spent on covid

I’m down south and I can confirm some forecourts have got none or very little and some have all pumps working

Kazanne · 24-09-2021, 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

didnt i hear its like at a few forecourts down south?

The papers love this new narrative of fear now that they have spent on covid

Fear mongering by the press again LT, there will only be a shortage if people panic buy and you can be sure they will,then blame it on Brexit,

Cherie · 24-09-2021, 08:23 AM

This has been an issue for a while, like one pump might be out but the rest are working

thesheriff443 · 24-09-2021, 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Cherie

This has been an issue for a while, like one pump might be out but the rest are working

You will always get compliments with one pump

thesheriff443 · 24-09-2021, 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Kazanne

Fear mongering by the press again LT, there will only be a shortage if people panic buy and you can be sure they will,then blame it on Brexit,

Never mind the petrol shortage
Hello you!

Beso · 24-09-2021, 01:13 PM

There is a shortage crisis of 400 thousand lorry drivers in Europe..you cant blame this solely on brexit.

Crimson Dynamo · 24-09-2021, 01:15 PM

So how can shippers avoid getting caught up in delays?
Paul Ferguson, Sales Director for John Good Logistics, has this advice, “We’ve been recommending customers use Northern ports such as Liverpool, especially those based in the North West.”

Since Liverpool opened its deepwater Liverpool2 terminal in 2016 it offers enlarged terminal capacity, an absence of demurrage and detention charges and faster truck turnaround times and available haulage.

Paul continues, “Shipping to Liverpool is often dismissed as not being viable because any cost saving can be outweighed by the additional transit time of 4-5 days. However, with the current issues regarding port congestion following the issues Felixstowe faced with the new IT systems and the general shortage of haulage in the industry, the delays and disruption being experienced on arrival at many of the UK’s main ports mean the door to door transits are now comparative. This is not just Liverpool but other UK feeder ports such as Immingham, Teeside and Grangemouth, which, are all now becoming more attractive propositions.

Additional benefits include a reduction in road miles and of course the environmental benefits also associated with this kind of move. For customers of John Good Logistics, we can also offer flexible haulage options because we operate our own trailers in the UK.”

https://goodlogisticsgroup.com/uk-ha...lage-problems/

problems always have solutions

Beso · 24-09-2021, 02:14 PM

All the vaccine does is hide the fact you have covid and that you are at risk of spreading covid because it reduces the symptoms.

Alf · 24-09-2021, 02:43 PM

Minister of State for Middle East and North Africa says...

user104658 · 24-09-2021, 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Alf

Minister of State for Middle East and North Africa says...

It's already been stated that there is no shortage of fuel, the fuel itself is available, there's a haulage problem that means in some areas fuel isn't getting out to the filling stations as efficiently as usual (and so they are running dry). This will of course be even worse when the panic-filling starts.

Alf · 24-09-2021, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

It's already been stated that there is no shortage of fuel, the fuel itself is available, there's a haulage problem that means in some areas fuel isn't getting out to the filling stations as efficiently as usual (and so they are running dry). This will of course be even worse when the panic-filling starts.

Yeah, but Arista's title says "petrol shortage"