[Alf]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

They should be able to wear whatever they want so long as it falls within uniform policy. That’s how it is in most schools now surely - girls are allowed to wear trousers, no one is forced to wear a skirt. On that note, yes boys should be ALLOWED to wear a skirt if they want and it’s part of the uniform (for either).

Well from the picture and story, they are allowed to wear it. I don't think anyone has said they shouldn't be allowed. But as Parmy says, the teacher has just made this up. What if some teacher's don't want to draw the line at just seeing young boys in traditional schoolgirl skirts, what if they want to push it even more?

[Crimson Dynamo]

There is a very good reason for school uniform and rules at school

same applies to make-up and jewelry

follow the rules and learn

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

There is a very good reason for school uniform and rules at school

same applies to make-up and jewelry

follow the rules and learn

Elaborate on the rules for the group

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by glenn.

elaborate on the rules for the group

i think every member has been to school

[Glenn.]

Bless you. You tried

[Vicky.]

Asking them to wear skirts is not promoting equality unless they also ask the girls to do so? Otherwise the option should be given, not them told to do it? That would be equality surely..

Unless I am misunderstanding.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Asking them to wear skirts is not promoting equality unless they also ask the girls to do so? Otherwise the option should be given, not them told to do it? That would be equality surely..

Unless I am misunderstanding.

Agree, I have no idea how everyone being told to wear a skirt is promoting equality...and your point about being given the option and they choosing to do it themselves is very valid

[Glenn.]

They wasn’t ‘made’ to do anything.

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

They wasn’t ‘made’ to do anything.

When a teacher suggests to a class or a year or the whole school that this is what they are doing...PRIMARY aged school kids are not going to refuse..they will feel peer pressure from friends and other teachers and feel pressured into doing something they possibly dont feel comfortable with. These are Primary school children...not senior school pupils that have developed an opinion on such matters.

Thats what is wrong...

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

When a teacher suggests to a class or a year or the whole school that this is what they are doing...PRIMARY aged school kids are not going to refuse..they will feel peer pressure from friends and other teachers and feel pressured into doing something they possibly dont feel comfortable with. These are Primary school children...not senior school pupils that have developed an opinion on such matters.

Thats what is wrong...

But again, nobody was made to to it.

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

But again, nobody was made to to it.

You are completely missing my point….try imagining yourself as a young 10/11 year old…impressionable and not wanting to be seen as the odd one out by not wearing a skirt…but suppressing the embarrassment of wearing a skirt commonly worn by girls for the sake of making a statement suggested by your Teacher….who you have been told to learn from and respect.

If they were 14-16 they would be a little more mature and able to make that decision without influence…

[user104658]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

the embarrassment of wearing a skirt commonly worn by girls

Why is wearing something “commonly worn by girls” inherently embarrassing?

That’s sort of the point and also the question you should ask yourself.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

You are completely missing my point….try imagining yourself as a young 10/11 year old…impressionable and not wanting to be seen as the odd one out by not wearing a skirt…but suppressing the embarrassment of wearing a skirt commonly worn by girls for the sake of making a statement suggested by your Teacher….who you have been told to learn from and respect.

If they were 14-16 they would be a little more mature and able to make that decision without influence…

Or imagine the embarrassment and mental pain in the young boy suppressing his desire to wear a dress, his young mind suddenly scrambled further by all the cool kids wearing what he wants to, but is to shy to


Carrie vibes..

[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

When a teacher suggests to a class or a year or the whole school that this is what they are doing...PRIMARY aged school kids are not going to refuse..they will feel peer pressure from friends and other teachers and feel pressured into doing something they possibly dont feel comfortable with. These are Primary school children...not senior school pupils that have developed an opinion on such matters.

Thats what is wrong...

Surely at Primary age the parents would be consulted? My son's school would seek permission. Plus where have these skirts come from? I couldn't send my kid to school in a skirt that would fit him so he wouldn't be taking part.

Sounds like just a PR stunt to me

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

Surely at Primary age the parents would be consulted? My son's school would seek permission. Plus where have these skirts come from? I couldn't send my kid to school in a skirt that would fit him so he wouldn't be taking part.

Sounds like just a PR stunt to me

No doubt but seeking permission means nothing to a child of 10/11 who will not want to be any different to his friends or against a stance requested by a teacher….unless he is a child with a strong character he is going to go along with it whether he likes it or not. These are young children and personally I think they shouldn’t be put in this position…

[Crimson Dynamo]

You would think after covid they would be buckling down to actual schoolwork?

[bots]

If boys and girls were treated equally in schools in everything else i could understand it, but they are not

[Liam-]

Why are we still assigning genders to pieces of fabric?

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Liam-

Why are we still assigning genders to pieces of fabric?

Why not? What's so important that you feel that you must change the normal?

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Alf

Why not? What's so important that you feel that you must change the normal?

its the same argument as

"its just men chasing around a leather sphere filled with air"

in other words

bolloxio

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Liam-

Why are we still assigning genders to pieces of fabric?

See though the issue here is, if you don’t buy into gender stereotyping, then you also can’t buy into gender fluidity, non-binary or even trans gender ideologies. All of them are 100% reliant on believing that stereotypically gendered roles, styles and norms are valid. Without them the concepts are largely meaningless. I find that the LGBTQ community ties itself in logical knots with this.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

See though the issue here is, if you don’t buy into gender stereotyping, then you also can’t buy into gender fluidity, non-binary or even trans gender ideologies. All of them are 100% reliant on believing that stereotypically gendered roles, styles and norms are valid. Without them the concepts are largely meaningless. I find that the LGBTQ community ties itself in logical knots with this.

They have had their time TS, the world is aware..


Problem is they just cant shut up, and that will only bring negative press.

[Beso]

In a nutshell...

People who want all this, dont give 2 flying ****s about the feelings of the people in the same situation, who dont want their situation highlighted.

Insulate britain vibes.

[Alf]

We need to see more women growing beards, this is important for society. We need to force this agenda.

[Alf]

What can we do today? How about we do a photo shoot with Harry Styles dressed up in a dress with a bow in his hair. Something for the young boys to look upto and aspire to be like.