[Beso]

It's the only sensible way forward to make it fair on everyone.

[Tom4784]

Funnily enough, this is going to affect female athletes like Caster Semenya too, born female, legally female, and will be treated like a man unless she chemically alters herself because of changes to the rules.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Tom4784

Funnily enough, this is going to affect female athletes like Caster Semenya too, born female, legally female, and will be treated like a man unless she chemically alters herself because of changes to the rules.

Caster Semenya should not have been assigned female at birth and had he been born in the UK his genetic mutation would have been picked up before birth. He has testes a male DSD. Its of no fault of his that he was led to believe he was female.

[user104658]

It's a plain old big fat lie that there aren't examples of trans athletes who have risen or are rising through the ranks of female sports at a disproportionate rate to overall percentage of population. Just such an obvious lie that I can only assume it's deliberate.

And that's WITHOUT taking into account the surge in recent years of gender ideology in the mainstream - so we should be looking ahead to what things look like in 10 to 20 years and trying to plan accordingly, not just saying "oh well we'll think about that later".

Personally, I'm not entirely averse to the video of objectively assessing strength/durability levels and segregating that way, like boxing weight categories, but I suspect that would end with most trans women being in with mid-tier males, and I would predict that many would take umbridge with that as well.

[user104658]

Actual medical anomalies at birth shouldn't be part of the same debate as gender ID - it's a completely different thing and should be a completely separate consideration. It does affected individuals no favours at all for it to be lumped in with social gender ideology.