[bananarama]

Ziggy is in the wrong. he is a two faced manipulator......

One moment he tells her he loves her and the next he is bitching about her to other housemates saying he would be free if she were evicted. A man in love would not have such thoughts.

He is trying manipulating the other housemates into nominatiing her.....

Chanelle is a lot younger than him. Vital years of relationship experience which he has but she does not have.......and he is taking full advantage of that.

[Abraxas]

I don't know but chanelle needs to grow up.

[jusojo]

Ziggy.

[natjake2504]

he treats her like a baby and is using her so no wonder she is acting like she is

[Abraxas]

I think she'd do a pretty good job of acting like a baby without ziggy!

[CharlotteSometimes]

I don't get all of this 'she's being a baby' stuff at all. She's a teenage girl, so the fact that she's not exactly emotionally stable should hardly come as a great surprise. And on top of that she's stuck in the same building as him 24-7, with very little opportunity to avoid him. Then there's the fact that there's a house full of onlookers, and of course cameras all around. When a girl comes to the realisation that the guy she fell for isn't what she thought he was (although she still hasn't, fully), there's going to be tears. Add to that the fact that she has no opportunity to be alone to get things straight in her mind, as well as not really having any emotional support from others in the house, and her behaviour is actually perfectly natural and to be expected. Slamming the girl for being the most normal and honest hm in there is pretty extreme.

[gowildcats]

I see Ziggy have half the votes there. And I wouold have said Ziggy after he broke up and got back together with her. But Now its definitely Chanelle who is hanging on for dear life, while Ziggy has made it clear this time he is getting out!
Chanelle is really stupid I think

[gowildcats]

Originally posted by CharlotteSometimes
I don't get all of this 'she's being a baby' stuff at all. She's a teenage girl, so the fact that she's not exactly emotionally stable should hardly come as a great surprise. And on top of that she's stuck in the same building as him 24-7, with very little opportunity to avoid him. Then there's the fact that there's a house full of onlookers, and of course cameras all around. When a girl comes to the realisation that the guy she fell for isn't what she thought he was (although she still hasn't, fully), there's going to be tears. Add to that the fact that she has no opportunity to be alone to get things straight in her mind, as well as not really having any emotional support from others in the house, and her behaviour is actually perfectly natural and to be expected. Slamming the girl for being the most normal and honest hm in there is pretty extreme.

Did you say that Chanelle is the most normal? Did you not see how unreasonable she is? Sorry there is nothing normal about that girl!

[CharlotteSometimes]

How is she being 'unreasonable'? Because Piggy says that she is? Please! As Wiglet suggested earlier in this thread, he's playing her like a puppet. No matter what she says, thinks or does, it's 'unreasonable' in his eyes. To encourage someone to do something and then suddenly have a problem with them when they do it is frankly rather pathetic. She's far closer to normality than any supposed 'man' who gets his kicks from treating a teenage girl like a toy he can play with when the real men aren't around.