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Old 09-11-2023, 10:38 PM #1
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But a white person calling a black person aggressive whilst they're absolutely not being aggressive in any form is a textbook microaggression. That happened, this make believe all black cast didn't.
Ok soo… a black person calls another black person aggressive whilst they’re absolutely not being aggressive, still a textbook microaggression? Probably not eh?
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Ok soo… a black person calls another black person aggressive whilst they’re absolutely not being aggressive, still a textbook microaggression? Probably not eh?
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And, honestly, this should end the thread. But it won't.
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And, honestly, this should end the thread. But it won't.
Why are you so uncomfortable discussing race and potential racial bias?
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Ok soo… a black person calls another black person aggressive whilst they’re absolutely not being aggressive, still a textbook microaggression? Probably not eh?
But was that what happened? But hey, if you need to keep inventing hypothetical scenarios to deflect from a conversation that makes you uncomfortable you knock yourself out
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But was that what happened? But hey, if you need to keep inventing hypothetical scenarios to deflect from a conversation that makes you uncomfortable you knock yourself out
The answer was clearly no then
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I’m curious.. if it was an all-black cast and someone was being called aggressive this really wouldn’t be an issue would it? The whites be evil
Only white people can be racist, didn't you know?
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Only white people can be racist, didn't you know?
According to the redefintion of the term by those that absolutely do not gain power by redefining that term, that is true.
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I’ve seen a few comments saying it’s racial biased and stuff and seeing it on screen from the likes of Jenkin, Tom, Chanelle and Paul, who are probably from areas where white people outweigh black people, call Trish aggressive for being loud and feisty and strongly opinionated but then not calling Olivia aggressive for being basically the same but not black….

I don’t think they are ‘racist’ but personally I think it is subconscious racial biased and I can’t believe this stuff happens, it’s so unfair and I’m shocked that more people do not see this.

What are your thoughts?

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Only two people have mentioned colour, Daryl and Trish.
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Only two people have mentioned colour, Daryl and Trish.

Dylan … just Dylan


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Trish mentioned micro aggression tonight, and by now we all know what that buzzword means. Another seed planted by Trish, following on from the bully limbo dancing.
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race aside

The point is the double standards is there . And I'm glad Trish called out the garden gremlins hypocrisy .... especially about Chanelle.
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The point is the double standards is there . And I'm glad Trish called out the garden gremlins hypocrisy .... especially about Chanelle.
I like the combination of the two group names here... Garden Gremlins...

I can live with that.
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Trish mentioned micro aggression tonight, and by now we all know what that buzzword means. Another seed planted by Trish, following on from the bully limbo dancing.
I have said before that the part of Trish that I don't like are her Guardianista level of performative barely educated leftist politics, despite being a 90s lefty myself, so I do agree that the use here was jarring.

But, it is hardly a fatal character flaw or one that changes my core view of her.
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Only two people have mentioned colour, Daryl and Trish.
Forgot about Dylan or he don't count ?
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The question is, is what racial?
All this seems to be coming from Trish herself. She seems to conflate being called ‘strong’ and being seen as ‘agressive’.
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Jordan put the aggressive, bully in her place.
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Who has trish bullied? Im all ears
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Who has trish bullied? Im all ears

It was nothing .. a 60 second interaction between Jordan and Trish ..


Let’s just say that they could have both handled it better


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Default Is it racial?

Hopefully just a coincidence that the downstairs crew have been all white from the get -go


Whilst the upstairs have been multicultural


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Must be just a coincidence that the downstairs crew have been all white from the get -go


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Do you think friendships should forced based on race?

That's also not true, as it was discussed in tonight's episode that Noky was hanging around a lot more the "downstairs" crew pretty much all the way through until this week. She's now spread her wings a bit around the house, which is great to see.
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I’ve seen a few comments saying it’s racial biased and stuff and seeing it on screen from the likes of Jenkin, Tom, Chanelle and Paul, who are probably from areas where white people outweigh black people, call Trish aggressive for being loud and feisty and strongly opinionated but then not calling Olivia aggressive for being basically the same but not black….

I don’t think they are ‘racist’ but personally I think it is subconscious racial biased and I can’t believe this stuff happens, it’s so unfair and I’m shocked that more people do not see this.

What are your thoughts?
No not racist at all just different personalities clashing
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Paul and Olivia were definitely public enemy number 1 on this forum purely based on race.

So yes, it's racial.
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Paul and Olivia were definitely public enemy number 1 on this forum purely based on race.

So yes, it's racial.

They have been castigated simply for their constant abhorrent behaviour and complete disrespect of their fellow housemates plus the thieving


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They have been castigated simply for their constant abhorrent behaviour and complete disrespect of their fellow housemates plus the thieving


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That's only because you believe that they should behave a different way because of their race.
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