[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Abra

I don't really think she was slagging them off. If anything, it actually came across to me like she was defending Jenkin and explaining the reason why sometimes he has mood swings is because he's not confident about his body and doesn't like having to stress about costumes for tasks not fitting him, and she was saying that she didn't take it into account before because she has never been in that situation. Jenkin took it the wrong way and started saying that she was bitching about him.

….I think also that also, those three in the situation they’ve been placed in…will be looking for bitching…and not purposefully manipulating their thoughts into that with what housemates say…but because that’s what they’re focusing on and looking for…it a ‘seek and you shall find’, type thing…they’re very much not stepping back and analysing and giving any thought, you know…no rationalisation-ness….

…anyway, I don’t think it will or would ruin, I think the opposite…because I think that what people like about Olivia…is that she’s showed a very flawed person so very relatable…she hasn’t always been the greatest in every situation, but that’s all of us, isn’t it…she has great points/she has not so great points..she is someone that, I feel …could be said to have had a ‘journey’ through it all….hmmmmmm, as Vanessa just said, though…similar to what was said of Jordan with the kiss in the jacuzzi…is the more ‘nice girl Olivia’ and the fun Olivia etc…coming back more because we’re reaching the final …is it an ‘act’ as is being thought with Jordan….hmmmmmmmm….

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Abra

I don't really think she was slagging them off. If anything, it actually came across to me like she was defending Jenkin and explaining the reason why sometimes he has mood swings is because he's not confident about his body and doesn't like having to stress about costumes for tasks not fitting him, and she was saying that she didn't take it into account before because she has never been in that situation. Jenkin took it the wrong way and started saying that she was bitching about him.

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[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Abra

I don't really think she was slagging them off. If anything, it actually came across to me like she was defending Jenkin and explaining the reason why sometimes he has mood swings is because he's not confident about his body and doesn't like having to stress about costumes for tasks not fitting him, and she was saying that she didn't take it into account before because she has never been in that situation. Jenkin took it the wrong way and started saying that she was bitching about him.

Yeah that was my take as well


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[rusticgal]

I don’t think she was being mean about Jenkin…but maybe Jenkin didn’t like her discussing his weight.

Olivia is so transparent….suddenly she is everyone’s friend

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

I don’t think she was being mean about Jenkin…but maybe Jenkin didn’t like her discussing his weight.

Olivia is so transparent….suddenly she is everyone’s friend

Yet seemingly only a few of us can see it whereas others either don’t or they are simply on the wind - up


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[Maru]

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[Maru]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

I don’t think she was being mean about Jenkin…but maybe Jenkin didn’t like her discussing his weight.

Olivia is so transparent….suddenly she is everyone’s friend

Who does? Silly Jenkin.

[Northern Monkey]

They’re all gonna see Olivia’s bitching in 4k.

[iRyan]

I wouldn't say she was slagging them off at all, she was trying to empathize with Jenkin's weight struggle while acknowledging it's not been something she's experienced imo. I think it was taken the wrong way. And she never said anything about Tom did she?

[Mokka]

I didn't know she ever had a chance of winning
I had counted her out long ago

[BB-Germany]

Tbh I think her chances are growing each day as she at least is not totally fake, as basically everyone else in there.

Cannot stand the fakeness of Yinrun, Matty or Jordan being rewarded.

[Maru]

Re: Jenkin From what I've been reading online, it seems people are split as to whether Olivia meant harm or not. That's typical Olivia . I can see it both ways... so I'd just say my gut says she meant well. She can't help it if she injects herself a little bit ("I'm a size 6, y'all") if she's trying to explain putting herself into other people's shoes... it's a bad habit

I think in this way, Olivia likes to keep up a front, very similar to Noky, she can't be seen to be 100% vulnerable... so she often injects humor, maybe even backhanded commentary, etc, to still keep an emotional distance from other HMs... it passes under the radar because she's also charismatic in her own right.

I don't think she meant ill of Jenkin, but that's my gut talking. She can't help but insert a wedge between her and other people, and some of it is maybe to disguise the complexities of her POV and to try to make it sound like she's not taking the game too seriously... I think she takes it very seriously and doesn't want to ever be seen to be too vulnerable. She admits to her flaws often "I come off as a bitch", and that's just her way of projecting she's obviously aware of how she makes other people feel... but being tactful is obviously something she struggles with.

That does not mean she can't also be a "meangirl" (overused) or a gossip. She has a devious side too. She highly values protecting herself (as a person) even if it means at the expense of other people's opinions... it doesn't have to mean she doesn't care about others. I think when she realizes she's hurt feelings is where she tries to come afterwards to explain her position (That seems sly). However, she sees a game and notices people acting in their own interest, so she's going to the do the same in the end.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Denver

Just as she becomes the favourite she turns on her 2 best freinds and slags them off behind their backs

Simply because she’s playing a massive game .. and using all the housemates to further her cause


She wears next nothing or figure hugging stuff to get the guys onside , she’s strong minded , outspoken to get the women onside .. she plays up to the millions of working class by sneering at the posher , best spoken housemates ..

Hilarious to see Tom going mad when he realised that she wasn’t sobbing her heart out after losing her best two friends only for her to then burst into singing a happy song

TV Gold


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[bots]

Olivia is just being olivia. I don't see where the issue is with her at all