[Ammi]

…(…I don’t think…)…that there was anything to investigate or that hadn’t been looked into, Vanessa….there was no ‘usage’ or reasons for them that was a cause of any concern to the police so far as I know….the only concerns were to the safety of the surrounding buildings as well and whether any unauthorised access to other buildings was breached…the police were trying to fill in the cement to make it all safe…imagine if any part of a tunnel had collapsed on those either above or below…?…it’s not a wise thing to be under buildings that haven’t been cleared for safety…

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Ammi

…(…I don’t think…)…that there was anything to investigate or that hadn’t been looked into, Vanessa….there was no ‘usage’ or reasons for them that was a cause of any concern to the police so far as I know….the only concerns were to the safety of the surrounding buildings as well and whether any unauthorised access to other buildings was breached…the police were trying to fill in the cement to make it all safe…imagine if any part of a tunnel had collapsed on those either above or below…?…it’s not a wise thing to be under buildings that haven’t been cleared for safety…

I think it definitely needs investigating
https://twitter.com/GaryRAndreini/st...LsBH45WRA&s=19

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Ninastar

Yeah it also came up on my Apple News

If anything it’s being used rn to fuel the anti jew rhetoric social media is loving rn

Luckily we ain't all stupid.

[Ninastar]

They have literally known about this for years

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Ninastar

They have literally known about this for years

Who has? I didn't know. Not everyone knew.

[bots]

Vanessa, the feeds and sites you are using for information are 10% truth and 90% fiction. News stories have to be checked against reputable sources before you can believe them. Not everything you read is true

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

Vanessa, the feeds and sites you are using for information are 10% truth and 90% fiction. News stories have to be checked against reputable sources before you can believe them. Not everything you read is true

That's true. But the tunnels are real. And I've never seen anything like that in all my life. I just find it really odd!

[bots]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

That's true. But the tunnels are real. And I've never seen anything like that in all my life. I just find it really odd!

there are loads of tunnels in every city.

I used to work in the shell centre in london, and it has a massive underground set of tunnels

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

there are loads of tunnels in every city.

I used to work in the shell centre in london, and it has a massive underground set of tunnels

What about the mattresses and the high chair found there? I really hope they investigate this.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

What about the mattresses and the high chair found there? I really hope they investigate this.

It's not a jew paedophile burrow ffs stop it.

[AnnieK]

With all the violence the Jewish community are facing at the moment it is very possible that they could have been preparing for a bolt hole type scenario if violence escalated. It seems more plausible that they will be preparing to protect themselves rather than it be something sinister.

[Ammi]

…social media is just becoming more ‘powerful’ in terms of creating and encouraging outrage and incitement, it’s so worrying because a member of the public can make a post and it then grows and spreads like a pebble ripple in a pond as ‘truth’….even mainstream media isn’t always reliable…

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Ammi

…social media is just becoming more ‘powerful’ in terms of creating and encouraging outrage and incitement, it’s so worrying because a member of the public can make a post and it then grows and spreads like a pebble ripple in a pond as ‘truth’….even mainstream media isn’t always reliable…

Yeah, "fake news" and conspiracy theories running wild

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Yeah, "fake news" and conspiracy theories running wild

…I think it’s also the speed of social media and how it works with stuff like this…because the misinformation reaches there before any balance of facts are known so opinions have already been formed…and a formed opinion is much more difficult to find objectivity and to find actual truths..in a ‘no smoke without fire’ type way…it’s all becoming a ‘perfect storm’ for misinformation and creating so much negative and prejudice stuff…hence why also we refer to ‘influencers’ because its all adding to preform mindsets and nurture bias, which is difficult to then see any truths ….

[user104658]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

With all the violence the Jewish community are facing at the moment it is very possible that they could have been preparing for a bolt hole type scenario if violence escalated. It seems more plausible that they will be preparing to protect themselves rather than it be something sinister.

I suspect this is the case, and when you have these fake (or twisting) news sites putting their slant on every news story and people who are buying I to it hook, line and sinker it's easy to understand why these communities would be feeling extremely nervous.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

With all the violence the Jewish community are facing at the moment it is very possible that they could have been preparing for a bolt hole type scenario if violence escalated. It seems more plausible that they will be preparing to protect themselves rather than it be something sinister.

Well we know that anti-Semitism is on the rise.

Just ask the Universities, Colleges and SNL's propaganda piece against the Jewish community as to how popular anti-Semitic rhetoric is getting.

Just to show people what I'm on about with SNL.

Propaganda from SNL:

Youtube video

The true events/"it depends on the context" when asked about if it's okay for University Students to be cheering on the genocide of the Jewish community:

Youtube video

And before anyone says anything, if these three idiots were to say the same thing about Muslims being threatened, and SNL tried to use Propaganda to make their side of the argument look unhinged, then I would still be saying the same thing that I'm saying now, because propaganda and blatant lies shouldn't be acceptable to anyone when talking about encouraging harm to someone, or in this case a group of people.

I agree with you AnnieK btw about why these tunnels exist.

[bots]

i'm preparing my atheist rabbit tunnel as we speak

[bots]

I think the vast majority of the world population believe everything they read. No election is safe any more and it won't be from vote rigging, it will be from misinformation

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

I think the vast majority of the world population believe everything they read. No election is safe any more and it won't be from vote rigging, it will be from misinformation

That's because sadly the majority of the population are brain dead morons.

And I say that as a fellow brain dead moron.

[thesheriff443]

No one is above suspicion but there has to be valid grounds for investigation

Talking things of topic a little with rabbits living in tunnels

If you pick up a wild baby rabbit and then place it back the parents and young will attack it ands kill it because it has your sent on it and see it as an intruder.

[Ammi]

…this seems like a reliable/informative article and Rolling Stone magazine…(..I presume…)…is a source without bias…

https://www.rollingstone.com/culture...rk-1234942995/

…it explains how the tunnels were dug because of some kind of dispute and the concern is the structural safety …it was structural engineers who have expressed that concern and advised them to be filled in….

[Ammi]

…the Jewish Chronicle article(s) also…


https://www.thejc.com/news/usa/chaba...-york-tfnqp38a

[Ammi]

…as I said earlier in the thread…this isn’t as simply layered as absorbing specific bias sites…so many worrying and ‘conspiracy’ type things are being posted on well known community chat sites and available for all access of all ages etc….just by searching for information on an apparent ‘story’….and that’s how these things also start to build…

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Ammi

…as I said earlier in the thread…this isn’t as simply layered as absorbing specific bias sites…so many worrying and ‘conspiracy’ type things are being posted on well known community chat sites and available for all access of all ages etc….just by searching for information on an apparent ‘story’….and that’s how these things also start to build…

Its becoming an increasingly important part of proficient Internet use that people take at least a few minutes to check their sources. With the site linked for the article in the OP all it took was a glance at the front page and clicking the "about" link on the site to see that it's a Trump Messiah agenda-driven site and not "news" at all.

[Maru]

Originally Posted by Ammi

…as I said earlier in the thread…this isn’t as simply layered as absorbing specific bias sites…so many worrying and ‘conspiracy’ type things are being posted on well known community chat sites and available for all access of all ages etc….just by searching for information on an apparent ‘story’….and that’s how these things also start to build…

I've stopped reading most news these days because it's designed to generate a reaction. I feel that I'm in the norm. The ones who do read it a lot, you can tell, because they're more hysterical and it's a vicious cycle, when most articles don't contain enough information to have an objective opinion on most things. Israel/Gaza is one of those topics for me where I don't feel more educated when reading, but rather more ignorant because I can see clearly I have no perspective in terms of understanding what any of those people are going though...

"Don't read this! Don't read that! It's propagandaaa!" Yeah, ok. It's all propaganda one way or another... I check headlines and don't bother thinking my opinion is superior when I do read in-depth, because I'm only getting the gist of something basic information when certain hot button issues are involved. Persuasion and spin in news is often delivered by omission, which is why reading x-leaning sources is beneficial because they have far more incentive to include details that otherwise are mysteriously left out by even mainstream outlets. I'm immediately skeptical of anyone trying to persuade anyone to not read opposing sources because they claim it's outside certain bulwark...


On topic, I don't think that the high chair and mattresses are anything extraordinary if it's meant to be a shelter of sorts.

Re: Epstein&Conspiracy, I'm of the opinion that Hollywood is a scourge of the Earth kind of thing and that the world would be much better place if it were not what it is today. That said, it's not exclusively a Jew thing, in my opinion. Here's my thought...

There's long been elements of what we have perceived as a superiority over others type of complex and thus so much power is brokered there. Celebrities dictate to us. They're not that interested in the activities of normal people. They're here to tell us what to do and to show us their ideal world. Thus, there are religious aspects, but lean more towards the mystical or fundamentalist... add in the prevalence of drugs, experimenting with shrooms and other oddities and it's no surprise many elements thrive there. How many of them use psychics? It's not simply a Judaism thing is what I'm saying. Santeria (some well known people are in it), Kabbalah, Scientology... the extreme sides of insert trending spirituality seems to thrive in that space, especially as it supports any sort of superiority complex, and that has always been a red flag. Christianity is shunned more, because of course it's often seen as a religion of the plebs. In Hollywood, celebrity must be unmistakable in appearances and thus there is an emphasis in living a more enlightened lifestyle. Modern day leftism is another manifestation of this, but tomorrow it'll be something else completely when it runs out of fashion...

Anyway, I've indulged with my thoughts, but none of this relates back to the underground tunnels, I think? Why hide such activities in tunnels when it's out in the open in other spaces, at least far as Hollywood is concerned. I don't think that the Jewish community on the whole has any connection to that. Why would Hollywood and the Epstein types want anything to do with the religious activities of regular people? Yes, religion might be a door per say into those things if you're already in their space, but they want to indoctrinate people into their specific version of that ideology. It's how probably so many horrible things stay under wraps. Whatever they practice in conjunction is "off the map" from what most people know of it anyway. Do you think someone visiting Scientology HQ is sitting down in the same classes as Tom Cruise? Leah Remini's written a book basically stating she had no idea of the real impact of her religion because the celebrity side is so different. They're getting specialized attention and doctrine not meant for the plebs... so why would they have a need for a synagogue when they could build their own and do those activities far more privately?

Let me know when Epstein or some other celebrity freak is caught having funded the building of those tunnels, then that conversation is very different is basically what I'm saying....