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Old 25-02-2024, 06:07 AM #26
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It's a Left Wing Newspaper
Ah, yes.
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From now to the election and beyond likely.
Anything anyone says from any Party now that has any hint of controversy about it.
Will be seized on by opposing Parties.

Where the leaders of those Parties desperate to be seen dealing with anything not welcomed quickly.
Will result in MPs and Councillors being dropped.

I honestly am now of the view, that immaterial of who wins the next election.
With the divisions between the 4 Nations of the UK.
Plus just how the UK is now with almost anyone having to be careful what they think and say.
The UK is on the road to being ungovernable.

Unless anyone or groups are advocating violence and real hatred against others..
Then perhaps a little more tolerance and freedom is what's needed.

That won't happen and what will happen is, anyone from any Party making the slightest wayward comment will probably end up with their careers ended.

Personally I'd rather know what people really think rather than have them paying liip service to a rigid agenda.
Thereby being more false.
Which it seems now is more acceptable than actually them saying what they think and thereby being honest.

I'm not sure which is worse.quite frankly.
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completely agree joey. What life is it when everyone is scared to voice their opinion. Ordinary folk just won't accept that, and I will be right there with them
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"Islamiphobic" is one of the most tragic new "phobes" tbh.
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"Islamiphobic" is one of the most tragic new "phobes" tbh.
I don't think being uneasy with (ideological) islam really counts as "irrational", so calling it a phobia is a bit manipulative.
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we shout about all the injustice in Russia and yet every day we allow the UK to become more authoritarian and nobody complains
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No one wants to be tarred a racist or an Islamaphobe. East London, where I was born and raised, is unrecognisable. What did East Londoners do when their area was given away to a different culture? We moved out.
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Sky News Text :
[Top Tories are being warned of a voter backlash
by Red Wall MPs over the party withdrawing the
whip from Lee Anderson following his comments
about Sadiq Khan,
according to The Daily Telegraph.]


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BBC News Text :
[Several papers lead on the continued
fall out from comments made by
MP Lee Anderson, who was suspended
from the Conservative parliamentary
party over the weekend.
"Sunak urged to speak out as
Islamophobia row deepens"
reads the front of Monday's Guardian.
It reports senior members of the Tory party
have criticised the "dangerous" rhetoric.]



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From now to the election and beyond likely.
Anything anyone says from any Party now that has any hint of controversy about it.
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Where the leaders of those Parties desperate to be seen dealing with anything not welcomed quickly.
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Plus just how the UK is now with almost anyone having to be careful what they think and say.
The UK is on the road to being ungovernable.

Unless anyone or groups are advocating violence and real hatred against others..
Then perhaps a little more tolerance and freedom is what's needed.

That won't happen and what will happen is, anyone from any Party making the slightest wayward comment will probably end up with their careers ended.

Personally I'd rather know what people really think rather than have them paying liip service to a rigid agenda.
Thereby being more false.
Which it seems now is more acceptable than actually them saying what they think and thereby being honest.

I'm not sure which is worse.quite frankly.
I agree with you Joey.
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predicted long ago...


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When tories argue that punishing their own for being overtly racist will damage their ‘red wall votes’ they are just calling those voters inherently racist, if (when) they lose the red wall at the election, it will be because of their complete and utter incompetence and contempt for the people they’re supposed to work for, not because they rightfully punished an open bigot for inflammatory racism
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When tories argue that punishing their own for being overtly racist will damage their ‘red wall votes’ they are just calling those voters inherently racist, if (when) they lose the red wall at the election, it will be because of their complete and utter incompetence and contempt for the people they’re supposed to work for, not because they rightfully punished an open bigot for inflammatory racism

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Islam isnt a race its a religious cult
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At Last
Lee has given interviews to ITV1HD news
and Ch5HDnews.

He says he is standing in the next Election.
Ch5 Reporter Andy Bell
pushed him on the Reform Party
he said he does not know if Reform would have him?




Meanwhile
Reform Party Leader Richard Tice
stated early on LBC AM
that over 13 nonths,
he has refused 2 Conservatives
wo wanted to join his party.


Lee Anderson has had a meeting
with Richard Tice
On Sunday, at a holiday inn lobby

Ref: Political reporter Christoper Hope

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Who's going to say that they are racist though?
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Lee spoke to Gary Gibbon of Ch4HDnews

He
(Lee) keeps talking about the Protestors
outside Parliament last weds.

Gary said you should have said it that way.



Lee said it's all up to the Conservative Chief Whip?

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I think he was directly criticising Khan and is perfectly entitled to do that without everyone calling him a racist.

This may well be the line in the sand where free speech fights back
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