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Old 17-03-2024, 09:50 AM #26
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The truth is, though, that merely having a different interpretation or opinion about a housemate is not hatred or targeting. It is just a different perception, and who can say who is right or wrong, as no-one can get inside a housemate’s head and truly know the motives for their words, actions and behaviours.

This is why opinions should be presented as merely opinions, rather than facts. Just because someone chooses to state a point of view is correct, it doesn’t mean it is.
Perceptions do, indeed, differ, Carfie, but ultimately there is only one truth.

To quote Soren Kierkegaard
"There are two ways to be fooled. One is to believe what isn't true;
the other is to refuse to believe what is true"

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I am not anti Fern but she isn't quite the angel she is being made out to be, she has stepped up recently so lets see how it all pans out now that protagonist is out of the house, if she starts picking on Louis, she will have me to deal with though
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…just slightly off topic but I don’t know if anyone has read any of her fictions…?..I might give one a whirl, tbh….

‘Her books are cherished for their warmth, wit and wisdom, and have won Fern legions of loyal readers….’….
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I am not anti Fern but she isn't quite the angel she is being made out to be,
Nor Marisha!
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Fern isn't that exciting, granted, but she offers more than the young fella's do.
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…just slightly off topic but I don’t know if anyone has read any of her fictions…?..I might give one a whirl, tbh….

‘Her books are cherished for their warmth, wit and wisdom, and have won Fern legions of loyal readers….’….

I read her autobiography….
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We all have our favorites.
Yeah, it shouldn't take someone long to understand that talking to certain users about certain housemates is simply a lost cause sometimes
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I read her autobiography….
I bet that was riveting.
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I read her autobiography….
…I don’t know anything about her life tbh…but her fiction books seem to some quite good reviews, I’m not sure what genre that are, though…
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there are no drama queens in the season (with the possible exception of David) No one is providing that aspect that is usually a feature of BB. The worst louis has done are a few less than diplomatic quips. So why is Fern being singled out?
I think it’s quite refreshing to have an alternative set of people, rather than the usual predictable groupings.

I don’t believe anyone hates Fern or believes her to be a bad person, but are just discussing her character flaws, something she has just like any other housemate in there. To me, comments about her, are not her being singled out, but the recognition that she - just like all the others - isn’t perfect either.

I don’t dislike Fern, but she doesn’t particularly appeal to me, as I find her the least interesting to watch. I guess responses to housemates all comes down to personal preference and those we are drawn to or not. We don’t all like the same people in real life, and we aren’t all going to like the same housemates.
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Perceptions do, indeed, differ, Carfie, but ultimately there is only one truth.

To quote Soren Kierkegaard
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the other is to refuse to believe what is true"
I love your responses, Hetty Lip, and the quote is great, but i feel that life is often a matter of perception, and being only human, we can interpret the truth differently, as no-one can stand outside themselves and all the experiences and influences they have had.

Sometimes, I think there is no truth but only perception, so in fact, there can be numerous ‘truths’. Reality and perception is such a fascinating concept.
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…I think for me with Fern, I neither like her or dislike her…she’s someone who I was less familiar with when she went into the house in terms of watching her shows…/…her TV work etc../…her celebrity…and I feel as though that hasn’t changed very much through her time there…she seems to be someone who is ‘holding back’ quite a bit…I mean, maybe they all are but Fern for me seems noticing so because she’s made comments about them all being great people and attaching to them etc…but when she gave her reasons for nominating Ekin-Su, it felt like a release of a lot of negative things…she really had been holding on to some stuff that wasn’t ’great people’ stuff so she’s holding back on things that would help us to get to know her and that’s an essence of BB…?…snyesy, I don’t dislike her, I’ve seen nothing to dislike particularly…but that’s it, really…I’ve seen very little and would have liked to see more…we watch BB to get to know people/housemates…so ‘guarded’ doesn’t really give us very much at all…
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…anyway, in terms of house/group dynamics, Fern has most definitely held more interest and provided more talking points than some of the others…
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Fern isn't that exciting, granted, but she offers more than the young fella's do.
Well, unless you want to see them lick each other's armpits anyway.
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…I have to say that although I don’t feel as though I know her character any more than when she went in the house… I do feel that she’s someone who deserves to be in the final…
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She is so boring.
Can I ask what the likes of Nikita and Bradley have done that Fern hasn't that is oh so entertaining?
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Can I ask what the likes of Nikita and Bradley have done that Fern hasn't that is oh so entertaining?

They have been genuine as opposed to being disingenuous ( Fern ) imho ( and many others)


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I noticed in last night's 'highlights' she showed more of her true self when she said this was the shi****t day.
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They have been genuine as opposed to being disingenuous ( Fern ) imho ( and many others)


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What have they done to show they are more genuine...because they really have done nothing!!
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Fern comes across as fake to me, disingenuous. I think others in the house have seen it also, she is often nominated.
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Fern comes across as fake to me, disingenuous. I think others in the house have seen it also, she is often nominated.

She gets nominated because she is an easy pick who won’t take offence…
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She gets nominated because she is an easy pick who won’t take offence…

Pretty sure she will


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I agree with your opinion.
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And here she is......crying again.
God, I hope she goes tomorrow.
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