[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

The distinction is needed - some people group trans-men in with women. Some other people group trans-women in with women. By specifying "cis women" and "everyone else", it's the shortest way to be clear and say what I mean.

Why can't we just say biological, I don't use the term 'cis'.

[Redway]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

Why can't we just say biological, I don't use the term 'cis'.

What is it about ‘cis.’ that grinds your gears so much?

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

Why can't we just say biological, I don't use the term 'cis'.

One comeback I've heard to that term is "of course I'm a biological woman, I'm not a robotic woman!"

Whereas using cis (which you might notice I put in inverted commas) makes it clear, and the only confusion or comeback is people complaining about the term.

For clarity I'm not thrilled with the use of the word, but it doesn't actively annoy me.

[hijaxers]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

Why can't we just say biological, I don't use the term 'cis'.

Agreed i HATE the term and the fact other people can label me. They can all CIS off.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

The distinction is needed - some people group trans-men in with women. Some other people group trans-women in with women. By specifying "cis women" and "everyone else", it's the shortest way to be clear and say what I mean.

Isn't the term "trans" already the identifier though?

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Isn't the term "trans" already the identifier though?

Sure, but I didn't use the word trans in my original post - transwomen and transmen were group under "everyone else."

[Redway]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

I think the toilets and bathrooms should be " 'cis' women" and "everyone else" tbh.

Don’t think that trans women can’t be raped by cis-men. Cis-women are not the only potentially vulnerable ones in all this.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Redway

Don’t think that trans women can’t be raped by cis-men. Cis-women are not the only potentially vulnerable ones in all this.

50% of the UK are women
0.1% are transwomen

[Redway]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

50% of the UK are women
0.1% are transwomen

Trans-women are still their own demographic, however comparatively uncommon. Things happen to them as well.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Redway

Trans-women are still their own demographic, however comparatively uncommon. Things happen to them as well.

Things happen to dwarves and one-legged people too

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Redway

Trans-women are still their own demographic, however comparatively uncommon. Things happen to them as well.

And this is why they should have their own spaces just like disabled people have their own facilities and sports so should trans men and women

[Livia]

Hmmm... I'd rather be described as a crusty old frump than a pantomime dame.

[Beso]

I will post a pixalated video of myself wanking..let's see how you like that.

[Crimson Dynamo]

The most disturbing part of this video is the looks on the faces of people in that room: fed-
up, seething, passive aggression as they're silenced and coerced into using language
which they don't accept as TRUTH. It's utterly chilling.
Nobody feels that they can put their hand up and say, "Excuse me. This is all unnecessary.
This is the tyranny of the tiny minority moving us away from normality. I won't play your
game."

https://x.com/beverleyturner/status/1808187433974223198

[Livia]

I refuse to use a label generated for me when I don't need one. I am a woman. Trans women are trans women.

[Beso]

Come on TIBB children, and see someone naked, legs akimbo furiously wanking on a toilet. From a moderator as well.

Absolute wrong wrong wrong...get the video deleted, you are out of order NAIHMN.

[Beso]

Some homosexuals rape straight men, where should they piss? Should we post videos with a list of crimes committed by gay men to further alienate them? Or is it only the trans community that are fair game.

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Some homosexuals rape straight men, where should they piss? Should we post videos with a list of crimes committed by gay men to further alienate them? Or is it only the trans community that are fair game.

What is your problem with gay people

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

What is your problem with gay people

Nothing. Absolutely nothing. Follow the whole thread and you might see where that post was coming from.


Ps, I'm not a massive fan of gay rapists though.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Nothing. Absolutely nothing. Follow the whole thread and you might see where that post was coming from.


Ps, I'm not a massive fan of gay rapists though.

I think you are missing the point Parm, nobody is denying what you say can happen, , however women were told it would never happen when told to share spaces with people who self ID as trans women .....shut up terf is the usual response to anyone who broaches the idea that self id is being abused mainly by predatory males to access female only spaces ...or in this instance...educate yourself ....

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Cherie

I think you are missing the point Parm, nobody is denying what you say can happen, , however women were told it would never happen when told to share spaces with people who self ID as trans women .....shut up terf is the usual response to anyone who broaches the idea that self id is being abused mainly by predatory males to access female only spaces ...or in this instance...educate yourself ....

I think you have missed my point. That video that has been posted is tarring them all with the same brush.
But I understand your issues, for in my eyes they wouldnt even have to be predatory for me to feel uncomfortable, if I were a woman having to share female personal spaces with a man who thinks hes a woman.

[smudgie]

.

Just realised my late step grandmother was the matron in charge at this hospital.
She would have sorted it out pronto.
Back in the day everyone quaked at the thought of Matron.

[Beso]

And where else would a child see a grown man wanking in a womans toilet?

[Livia]

Originally Posted by parmnion

And where else would a child see a grown man wanking in a womans toilet?

Er, maybe young girls seeing a real grown man wanking in a real women's toilet? I'd say that would be worse, it wouldn't be pixelated out either.

I really don't understand your outrage over this Parm, in my time on here I've seen and read worse. At least this is real, it's happening and it's newsworthy.

[Beso]

Cause the age limit for tibb is 13 years old, and the forum rules because of that fact, DOES NOT ALLOW porn.

You don't mind seeing it Livia, because you are not 13. Also, so whatbifbuts pixelated, imo that is worse than showing it because it would send a young mind into overdrive.

Perhaps now everyone has seen it, it could be deleted? Like a respectful person would do.