[Oliver_W]

I honestly don't have strong feelings about it either way. I don't see it as good or bad.

[Glenn.]

Can’t think of any reason why anyone would be against it?

[Livia]

I have no problem with it. However some places aren't multicultural anymore. It's better when people try to mix, but some people have no intention of mixing and instead their own communities take over whole areas. If you haven't lived somewhere that's changed beyond all recognition, you won't understand.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Livia

I have no problem with it. However some places aren't multicultural anymore. It's better when people try to mix, but some people have no intention of mixing and instead their own communities take over whole areas. If you haven't lived somewhere that's changed beyond all recognition, you won't understand.

The thing is again though this genuinely happens without any immigration at all, if you live in sleepy/small villages that start to become "gentrified" with city-commuting professionals etc.

You should see the local facebook groups around here. All-out war between "born and bred locals" and people who have moved into the area. And we're not talking immigrants or ghettoisation here - we're talking 4-and-5-bedroom homes with young families and still 99% white British.

Locals "who have been here for generations" do not like it at all.

We thought my wife was experiencing a racism from the elderly dad of a neighbour because she's from England -- but no -- apparently even being Scottish isn't good enough and he branded me an "interloper" as well because I grew up a 1.5 hour drive away .

[Ninastar]

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

The thing is again though this genuinely happens without any immigration at all, if you live in sleepy/small villages that start to become "gentrified" with city-commuting professionals etc.

You should see the local facebook groups around here. All-out war between "born and bred locals" and people who have moved into the area. And we're not talking immigrants or ghettoisation here - we're talking 4-and-5-bedroom homes with young families and still 99% white British.

Locals "who have been here for generations" do not like it at all.

We thought my wife was experiencing a racism from the elderly dad of a neighbour because she's from England -- but no -- apparently even being Scottish isn't good enough and he branded me an "interloper" as well because I grew up a 1.5 hour drive away .

The amount of hate I got in Scotland for being from England (and the US) was genuinely mind boggling. I’d have grown men get angry with me for wearing an England shirt. I felt like it was only the Scottish that were hateful, I never received any hate for being Scottish when I was in England

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Ninastar

The amount of hate I got in Scotland for being from England (and the US) was genuinely mind boggling. I’d have grown men get angry with me for wearing an England shirt. I felt like it was only the Scottish that were hateful, I never received any hate for being Scottish when I was in England

As a Scotsman who lived in England for two years trust me it is there!

It's not the majority of people by a huge stretch don't get me wrong, but those who do "take issue" don't tend to hide it.

TBF wearing an England top in Scotland... is a statement...

[Ninastar]

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

As a Scotsman who lived in England for two years trust me it is there!

It's not the majority of people by a huge stretch don't get me wrong, but those who do "take issue" don't tend to hide it.

TBF wearing an England top in Scotland... is a statement...

I had no clue lmao, I was just kid

I’m sure it happens the other way too. I just haven’t experienced it myself. I’d never say that a certain kind of people can’t receive any kind of xenophobic hate to me that’s just ignorant.

No matter where I live, I always stick out as a foreigner so I don’t really have a home town per se

It’s opened my eyes more than anything though. I am lucky to be able to see things the way I do

[Parmy]

Originally Posted by Ninastar

The amount of hate I got in Scotland for being from England (and the US) was genuinely mind boggling. I’d have grown men get angry with me for wearing an England shirt. I felt like it was only the Scottish that were hateful, I never received any hate for being Scottish when I was in England

I think you miss read the room, us Scots sound very angry when we are happy. In sure it was all harmless banter. If not, you are visiting the wrong places. Come further south nearer the border next time.

As a Scot who lived In essex for 12 years I often wore my Scotland top and had nothing but good humoured banter thrown my way..

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Ninastar

The amount of hate I got in Scotland for being from England (and the US) was genuinely mind boggling. I’d have grown men get angry with me for wearing an England shirt. I felt like it was only the Scottish that were hateful, I never received any hate for being Scottish when I was in England

Some people in Scotland can't get over a war that we had with them before any of us were even born.

It's quite a sad reason to hate a group of people tbh.

[Livia]

I didn't grow up in a sleepy village, I grew up in Newham. It was always multicultural ever since the docks opened in the 1800s. My school had minorities from all over the world and I honestly don't remember issues based around race, apart from the Asian kids didn't mix with the white and West Indian kids. But the balance tipped too far. White people became the minority in the 1990s and now it's like a foreign country. An Asian country.

[Benjamin]

If anyone wants to know figures/stats for 2022:

https://www.gov.uk/government/statis...20prosecutions.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Benjamin

If anyone wants to know figures/stats for 2022:

https://www.gov.uk/government/statis...20prosecutions.

That’s all offences.. who gives a flying shyte about small time crimes

I was CLEARLY referring to SERIOUS , violent crimes and atrocities


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[Benjamin]

Originally Posted by Zizu

That’s all offences.. who gives a flying shyte about small time crimes

I was CLEARLY referring to SERIOUS , violent crimes and atrocities


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But still you’ve given no proven statistics.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Benjamin

But still you’ve given no proven statistics.

Well your stats are completely and utterly irrelevant to this conversation


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[Benjamin]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Well your stats are completely and utterly irrelevant to this conversation


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I’m not the one stating a fact though. You are, without anything concrete to back it up.

[Livia]

so far as I can see, Vanessa is talking about endless, unchecked immigration. She has a point, it's not racist to voice it.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Livia

so far as I can see, Vanessa is talking about endless, unchecked immigration. She has a point, it's not racist to voice it.

Yes that's what I'm worried about. Surely it's dangerous? We're seeing the results right now in the UK. It's frightening.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Livia

so far as I can see, Vanessa is talking about endless, unchecked immigration. She has a point, it's not racist to voice it.

Yes
it is still up to PM Starmer to stop it

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by arista

Yes
it is still up to PM Starmer to stop it

He should have addressed it on his speech. I think it's a big problem.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

He should have addressed it on his speech. I think it's a big problem.

Hang on,
that speech was not planned.
He was angry and he limited the Press replies.

(Across the UK Riots were going on)


Once he has started changing
the Illegal Migrant Problem.
Then he will have a new TV and Radio conference

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by arista

Hang on,
that speech was not planned.
He was angry and he limited the Press replies.

(Across the UK Riots were going on)


Once he has started changing
the Illegal Migrant Problem.
Then he will have a new TV and Radio conference

Well I hope he mentions it. Something needs to be done. People are scared to go out, it's that bad.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by arista

Hang on,
that speech was not planned.
He was angry and he limited the Press replies.

(Across the UK Riots were going on)


Once he has started changing
the Illegal Migrant Problem.
Then he will have a new TV and Radio conference

These murders were nothing to do with illegal immigrants though.

He's charging the police to do all they have to in order to ensure they can deal with these riots more effectively.

This guy charged isn't an illegal immigrant.
He was BORN here.

These rioters had the totally wrong end of the stick when they went out and caused the chaos.

[thesheriff443]

When you treat everyone the same you don’t get problems because one group can’t turn around and say the other group is getting treated differently

Yes have many religions and cultures but there must be one law for and one rule for everyone

Added to this you basically have ignorant people on all sides willing to go out the streets without knowing tge truth of why they are there

[LaLaLand]

Love it.

Main thing for me, being a big “foodie”, is the wide range of cuisine restaurants now here - when I was a kid it was just Indian or Chinese but now we have Turkish, Portuguese, Polish, Italian, Caribbean etc etc.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by LaLaLand

Love it.

Main thing for me, being a big “foodie”, is the wide range of cuisine restaurants now here - when I was a kid it was just Indian or Chinese but now we have Turkish, Portuguese, Polish, Italian, Caribbean etc etc.

The best thing about it : the food, definitely